You're making this unnecessarily tribal. Please don't.
Okay, this is a legitimate question, and I'm being completely sincere.
The comments against shove keep getting repeated. I can point out the same exact people saying the same exact things over dozens of posts over the last year alone.
How can I respond that I think those comments are off-base and exaggerated without coming across as tribal? I'm really sincere here. I'm not trying to be tribal. I'm trying in full faith to express an honest opinion.
In the meantime, I get personal attacks telling me I don't even believe what I'm saying. I've made several points, even going so far as to outline a chronological series of encounters and showing that shove isn't terribly effective in those encounters. In return, no one has tried to counter my points. They've simply presumed my motive and said that I'm arguing for the sake of arguing.
In other words, I get the sincere feeling that people here can shit on me all day long, but if I disagree, I get accused of being tribal.
Again, I'm not trying to be combative. I'm 100% sincere.
