Originally Posted by Ragitsu
Originally Posted by GM4Him
Originally Posted by ash elemental
Originally Posted by GM4Him
So, if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying they purposely meant for a lawful good character to be a mass murderer because they thought it would be funny?

The POINT is that the game was designed so that players would play the game as intended. Lawful Good characters were not MEANT to be murderers just because it's hilarious.
No, you again miss the point. If changing your alignment as a result of your actions should not be possible, then the hell trials in BG2 don't make sense. If changing your alignment should be possible, then it doesn't mean it was done in one step. An LG character can be for example consumed by getting vengeance for Gorion and as a result if that overwhelming hatred can slowly give in to the taint. They don't become the next lord of murder overnight. But in BG1, they cannot become that at all; quite ironic, considering the subject of the story. What is even the point of all those dark dreams and powers?

Dustmen has restated my point well.

Let's just get back on topic. This is totally derailing. Point is, throwing tiefling children as immortal missiles is weird and comical, and BG3 is really starting to lose a LOT of credibility for me as a serious RPG. Thing after thing increases the sheer comedy of this game, and I am losing the enchantment and seeing nothing but ridiculous trolling memery.

Larian. PLEASE do something more about this. You need to scale back on this stuff. It's being taken too far.

If we've seen the core of Larian's efforts, then I think you're better off wishing upon a star. Either...

...the game is going to feature this brand of bizarre humor; buckle up for the ride.


...the game is going to be scrapped and built from the ground up to be firmly serious.


...the game is going to be abandoned/cancelled.

Seeing as how they're barely in touch with the spirit of D&D and/or The Forgotten Realms AND Sven is on record saying that this installment is a great business opportunity for his company, I'd say the first outcome is most likely.

You're not wrong.

Maybe I'll just go play Solasta now. Maybe I should be pumping people up more to play that game.

Sigh. But BG3 has SO much potential! Ugh.

Sigh. Maybe I need to just let it go. Let this ship sail however it's going to.

I'll tell you this much, though. If they don't do something to legit give us at least some of what we're hoping for, it'll be the last game of Larian's that I ever buy.

And to be clear, I'm not REALLY asking for a whole overhaul. I'm wanting them to tame it down and make things more valuable and meaningful and realistic within the boundaries provided by established lore.

I expect jumping superheroes if the jump spell is cast. Without it, no. 5-10 feet is a pretty normal-ish jump distance. Shove 5-10 feet. Normal. Spell. 15 feet makes sense, or whatever. I don't even have as much a problem with arrows doing the knock back because they're magic. It's the immortal tiefling kids type stuff that's got to go and the ridiculous shoving/throwing distances and jumping distances and so forth.

THAT'S what I mean by being a serious RPG. Provide us with a realistic normal so magic is special and there's more of a contrast between normal and supernatural. Using kids as throwing objects that never die... Nope. Gotta go.

And frankly, the OP is right. These kids should be realistic and kill-able because that is life. That is normal. That is realism. Being immortal, no matter how you feel about killing kids, is ridiculous.