Gives full immunity vs Finger of Death(OHK in 2E), Imprisonment, Charm, Confusion, Level drain, Panic , Sleep
Immunity to arrows, throwing axes and other missile weapons up to +2
Set AC to -4, in 5E equivalent that is +4 AC over full plate armor
Set THAC0 to ZERO ie - to hit full plate armor the slayer needs to roll ZERO,
Set STR/DEX to 25 - That is literally GODlike in AD&D. which gives +14 damage and to carry 1600 kg of stuff
4 Attacks per round and 8 with improved haste
All saving throws are set to 2, ie - only rolling 1 the slayer fails a save
40% MR(this is hard to translate into 5e)
100 hp, and is 100 hp in a game where even dragons and adamantite golems rarely get 3 digit hp.
Now, in BG3, in therms of damage and resistance, the slayer form is worthless.
If Larian don't wanan something as powerful as Slayer in BG2, I would suggest to make it at least as good as 5e tenser transformation. That spell in 5e :
You gain 50 temporary hit points. If any of these remain when the spell ends, they are lost.
You have advantage on attack rolls that you make with simple and martial weapons.
When you hit a target with a weapon attack, that target takes an extra 2d12 force damage.
You have proficiency with all armor, shields, simple weapons, and martial weapons.
You have proficiency in Strength and Constitution saving throws.
You can attack twice, instead of once, when you take the Attack action on your turn. You ignore this benefit if you already have a feature, like Extra Attack, that gives you extra attacks.
I would only change "attack rolls that you make with simple and martial weapons." to "unarmed attacks" and the "2d12 force damage" to d12 necrotic damage + d12 cold damage as it fits more a Bhaalspawn than pure force damage.
People who barely understand D&D made BG3. Balance is all over the place. Weird choices everywhere in the name of fun I guess?
BG2 feels polished D&D confident as hell compared to what we have now. Its incredibly ironic. Having turn base should of made BG3 an incredible D&D game yet it feels less D&D than the previous game which has a system not suited for D&D.
Last edited by Count Turnipsome; 17/10/2302:58 PM.
It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
Did yu guys ever seen the Unholly assassin build of Bhaall ? man this dude shows how to make the Slayer form a Beast. he wipe the floor with raphael on tactician..solo. i Beleav its like a Hybrid Fighter, Thief with some crazy itens and all pretty cool..
this dude make me ask why in the Nine Hells the Dark Urge start as a Sorcerer.. thats kind dosent make any sense. but ok. Larian Stuff like gaving yu two Druids as companions great isant it ? huahauha
this dude make me ask why in the Nine Hells the Dark Urge start as a Sorcerer.. thats kind dosent make any sense. but ok. Larian Stuff like gaving yu two Druids as companions great isant it ? huahauha
That really doesn't show off the Slayer in any way shape of form.
In fact, Slayer suffers from same issues as Wildshape, which I wrote about in my other thread:
However, for those not interested, here are the main problems:
-You can only use it once per long rest, while Moon Druids get up to 6 forms per day, which will win over the Slayer in war of attrition. -Squishy with less than 100 hp and no magic items affecting it. -Lack of resistances to conditions and damage.
Worse still, there are official stats released for the Slayer form by WOTC, which are miles above Larian's interpretation. Hell, Slayer is weaker than a Young Red Dragon or an Elder Brain going by the CR. While in tabletop it is a beast with these stats:
HP: 209 Speed: 40 Feet AC: 19
STR 24 (+7) DEX 22 (+6) CON 20 (+5) INT 14 (+2) WIS 16 (+3) CHA 14 (+2)
Strength and Dex Saving throw proficiency
Resistance to nonmagical damage and immune to poison
It is also immune to basically every type of status condition like: Paralyzed, charmed, frightened, stunned, etc
Magci resistance and can make four attacks, which reduce targets hitpoints. On top of that, it can take form of the Ravager, which is even stronger (CR 24 vs CR 20 of the Slayer)
Having a CR 20/24 PC in a game with lv cap of 12 would't work imo.
True, but considering powers levels of bg3, we are way past CR 16. Raphael 666 hp being higher than a CR 30 Torrasque (or close to it) with higher AC.
As it is, The Slayer is weaker than a Young Red Dragon. And elder brain only has got CR 14, while in BG3 it's obviously higher due to insane power creep.
To put into perspective, a party of 4 level 12 adventurers can fight a CR 17 monster as a boss and that's in tabletop
He fight Raphael in the final part of the video only in Slayer form.. he even put a time stamp for yu to see him only fighting Rafael.. he actually did the fight perfect, take out evrybody then yu go for Raphael. in my game man.. was hard to take him down the first time..hauhauha but i do get that the Slayer Form should be a little bit Better after all its the Slayer.. but like i said Larian Stuff.. hauhauha thats not the first time yu see something weird like that.. and in Table Top like yu Told.. he is a BEAST>>> lol
