Larian Banner: Baldur's Gate Patch 9
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Canada
D
veteran
Offline
veteran
D
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Canada
But since the game is now called "Beyond Divinity", it should have stronger connections to the previous game!
Not just reading about the "divinity" in books!

As I said, I like the title but the "Divinity" part means the Divinity Universe or the Divinity from the first game?

Joined: Jun 2003
veteran
Offline
veteran
Joined: Jun 2003
Quote
As I said, I like the title but the "Divinity" part means the Divinity Universe or the Divinity from the first game?

In my mind it is the Divinity Universe because the story is not a sequel of Divine Divinity.
Divinity also means the same concept about the gameplay, the features, etc.

Joined: Mar 2003
Location: Netherlands
addict
Offline
addict
Joined: Mar 2003
Location: Netherlands
AS if it is normal in games that you become what the title says. Riftrunner was an exception. I can't remember becoming a Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape:Torment, Diablo, Temple of Elemental Evil, Gothic, Ultima or whatever.
Why would it be confusing to anybody (Besides the visitors here) that you become a Riftrunner in a game named Beyond Divinity? How many RPG's, besides Divinity, are there where you become what the title says?


See me @ The Locus Inn & RPGWatch
Joined: Apr 2003
veteran
Offline
veteran
Joined: Apr 2003
pac-man....? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


[color:"#33cc3"]Jurak'sRunDownShack!
Third Member of Off-Topic Posters
Defender of the [color:"green"]PIF.
[/color] Das Grosse Grüne Ogre!!! [/color]
Joined: Jun 2003
DAD Offline OP
old hand
OP Offline
old hand
Joined: Jun 2003
Quote
AS if it is normal in games that you become what the title says. Riftrunner was an exception. I can't remember becoming a Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape:Torment, Diablo, Temple of Elemental Evil, Gothic, Ultima or whatever.
Why would it be confusing to anybody (Besides the visitors here) that you become a Riftrunner in a game named Beyond Divinity? How many RPG's, besides Divinity, are there where you become what the title says?


In Microsoft’s Age of Empires-extentions:
The Rise Of Rome you become a Roman,
The Age of Kings you become a King,
The Age of Conquerors you become a Conqueror.
However, besides being a Pac-man <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> (Hi Jurak)

One can become a warrior a thief a mage a supermodel or a marathon runner, but what is so common about being a Riftrunner?

My take was precisely that it makes no sense to an outsider.

The name Beyond Divinity is very interesting and stimulates curiosity about the fantasy that one should expect in a universe Beyond Divinity, even if one never played the first game.

I may borrow your expression and say:
Why would it be confusing to anybody that you become a Flaxzorbax in a game named Beyond Divinity?
Nothing at all except that being a Flaxzorbax is neither clear nor stimulating.
For us the PIF members, we can imagine from the name that it is of an imp or at least something impish.

In other words, we are the fans and if they call the game “Behind the Sward of lies lays cries and many whys”, and that each of us shall be set to become a senile bum, we shall still buy the game and enjoy playing it.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

However, that was never my point.

Try to imagine being a very new gamer looking for an RPG game on the net and you “stumbled” on the Larian Studios home page then went on reading.

Beyond Divinity ....hmm .... how interesting!
When you come to that part saying Riftrunner you shall ask what is a rift runner?
If it said that you shall become a lawyer, then oh ... ok ... (not interesting).
If it said that you shall become a cook, then oh ... ok ... (not interesting).
If it said that you shall become a wizard, then oh ... ok ... (maybe interesting).
If it said that you shall become a warrior, then oh ... ok ... (maybe interesting).
But Riftrunner has a meaning to us as fans only.

To the contrary of your expectations, if the name of the game was RiftRunner, then the case would be completely different. Becoming a battle-mage in a game named RiftRunner could have any meaning you wish including discovering that one of the names of the devil is RiftRunner or that it is the name of a king or that it is the title of a genitor on the rifts of hell. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

But being or becoming a rift-runner is basically meaningless to outsiders.

Think about it, please.


Joined: Mar 2003
old hand
Offline
old hand
Joined: Mar 2003
Quote

Why would it be confusing to anybody that you become a Flaxzorbax in a game named Beyond Divinity?
Nothing at all except that being a Flaxzorbax is neither clear nor stimulating.

Matter of taste. An unclear and new term can indicate originality: I'm all in for that. Undo a curse? Sure, I understand what that means, except... I've undone a hundred curses before, why would I feel stimulated to undo another one? Being a Flaxzorbax isn't stimulating to you, but that's just your view. Maybe because you like to know everything before you can show interest? Who knows, who cares. Taste.
Moreover, "riftrunner" is a nice word, even without knowing what it means, you could speculate. Some people enjoy speculating. In that perspective, it's an even better word than Flaxzorbax, and even the latter could already raise interest. Not to you, obviously, but to others it could.

No point in asking people to think about a matter that's mainly dependent on taste. Unless you want to argue it's not a matter of taste. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


Mr Kej, Second Member of the Guild of Off-Topic Posters *** Visit Aviorn's Inn, my Divine Divinity fansite ***
Joined: Nov 2003
member
Offline
member
Joined: Nov 2003
Quote
But being or becoming a rift-runner is basically meaningless to outsiders.

Think about it, please.


More the reason that makes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> such a great name. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Quote
Beyond Divinity ....hmm .... how interesting!


Yes, very interesting indeed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

Quote
In Beyond Divinity, you become soul-forged with a Death Knight. Your fate is to spend the rest of eternity bonded to this creature of evil, unless you can undo this curse. You and your unlikely companion embark on a great adventure to unlock the secret of riftrunning... your only answer to this life of darkness!


Even the great boxart shows this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />





Joined: Nov 2003
member
Offline
member
Joined: Nov 2003
Don't mess with the Gremlins. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

Joined: Mar 2003
old hand
Offline
old hand
Joined: Mar 2003
And don't feed us after midnight. And mess with us. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Btw, where did you come from?? Someone been spilling water on me again? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />


Mr Kej, Second Member of the Guild of Off-Topic Posters *** Visit Aviorn's Inn, my Divine Divinity fansite ***
Joined: Nov 2003
member
Offline
member
Joined: Nov 2003
Well, there was a party the other night.

Things got kinda out of hand and someone spilt a beer on you. It just so happened to be a cheap american beer and that's the same as water.

Sorry about that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Joined: Mar 2003
Location: Netherlands
addict
Offline
addict
Joined: Mar 2003
Location: Netherlands
Quote
Try to imagine being a very new gamer looking for an RPG game on the net and you “stumbled” on the Larian Studios home page then went on reading.

Beyond Divinity ....hmm .... how interesting!
When you come to that part saying Riftrunner you shall ask what is a rift runner?
If it said that you shall become a lawyer, then oh ... ok ... (not interesting).
If it said that you shall become a cook, then oh ... ok ... (not interesting).
If it said that you shall become a wizard, then oh ... ok ... (maybe interesting).
If it said that you shall become a warrior, then oh ... ok ... (maybe interesting).
But Riftrunner has a meaning to us as fans only.

Riftrunner has a meaning to anyone bothering to read about what has been published about it upto now. If the question is asked at the title or only after you've read the description of it makes no difference.
I'm not convinced that the name Riftrunner is more appealing to new fans than Beyond Divinity is. There is real power in a brand name. People will check the game out just because it has Divinity in the name. That is something you won't get when the game is named just 'Riftrunner'.


See me @ The Locus Inn & RPGWatch
Joined: Mar 2003
veteran
Offline
veteran
Joined: Mar 2003
Quote
But being or becoming a rift-runner is basically meaningless to outsiders.

But you have to play the game to find out what it means to be... A RiftRunner! (dun dun daaaaaaah)

Joined: Jun 2003
DAD Offline OP
old hand
OP Offline
old hand
Joined: Jun 2003
Quote
Quote
But being or becoming a rift-runner is basically meaningless to outsiders.

But you have to play the game to find out what it means to be... A RiftRunner! (dun dun daaaaaaah)


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
Ok, ok, I give up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Do I have to disclose the secret that we must run very fast using the rifts we find beyond divinity to dispel the magic that forges the Death knight to the avatar spiritually? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I am quite aware that we shall be rift-running but that was not the point, arrrrrrrrrgh here I go again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

I said I gave up.

Most of the gamers shall not even bother to read the name of the game if the picture on the box was nice and labelled RPG when recommended by the salesman/ saleswoman.

As for the PIF we are going to buy the game anyway.

So it really does not matter if the game’s name was Vidinity and that we are supposed to become Gif Gunners.

LOL.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />



Joined: Mar 2003
veteran
Offline
veteran
Joined: Mar 2003
Very true. Sorry, I did miss the point.

Names do have a point of recognition though. One example is Another World (aka. Out Of This World), Flashback and Fade to Black. Until a year ago, I had no idea that these three games were the same series. I loved Another World but never touched the other two until I found them on an abandonware site.

Joined: Jun 2003
DAD Offline OP
old hand
OP Offline
old hand
Joined: Jun 2003
We shall “run”

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" />

On the “rifts”

of CDs.

So make sure that your Compact Disk Drive includes the rift-runner Option. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Call each disk of the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> game as rift #1, rift #2 and so on.
Then we become rift loaders and rift runners.

The first screen in the game should be in the world of divinity and a button to command the game to take you Beyond Divinity.

It is elementary my dear Watson. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />




Joined: Apr 2003
veteran
Offline
veteran
Joined: Apr 2003
Does that mean we will be running the "rifts" from this Butt Ugly thing!

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
UglySaur

What is it? and who made it? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


[color:"#33cc3"]Jurak'sRunDownShack!
Third Member of Off-Topic Posters
Defender of the [color:"green"]PIF.
[/color] Das Grosse Grüne Ogre!!! [/color]
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Larian_QA, Lynn, Macbeth 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5