Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Is this BG?! Oh boy I have so many mixed feelings.

I think this game will be good. But it's not BG3. It really is DOS3: "in baldurs gate". Will it be a good game? I think so. Will it be BG. No.

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Nostalgia is not the only focus here. Clearly it's the only thing you seemed to focus on when I made my post.

I'm not defending anything. There are no attacking being made, and if there are attacks being made, it's strange to have to attack someone elses ideas and feelings and pretty much saying it's wrong. I don't see any of that here accept for the very obvious.

Oh, I just wanted to put my point of view on DnD. I never really played it. :\
I don't have an opinion on it and have no knowledge on it. I've played pathfinder, not much.
I see how they are the same in a way. But these are video games not pen and paper. It shouldn't be defined on "Core Rules" or "Versions" Of an ancient pen and paper table top...
I mean, if lots of peoples; including me, would say that these games should be different based off an old game. I can easily argue and say that BG can be new as well... BG can be NEW as well.. Let that sink in.

This is kinda not like BG. This is a look alike to sin. And it's not really New. The series is over 5 years old. and there has been multiple of the game, with the same looking stuff.
So "New" isn't really accurate as well. Calling it a new BG3 is also not really accurate.... It's stuck between two awkward states... I think it's not intentional here, but it's a reality, and that's why so many people here so two sided I bet.

If you would take BG and focus on making BG3 with BG actually in mind. It wouldn't be "New" as well. But at least you can call it BG3, look at it and say "Wow yeah this is BG3!"

Well we are on the same page here. I just wrote what i felt in emotions and I belive that our view on "tfu BG3" are simillar.

Well as i mentioned. We will see the same story that happend to Diablo 3.
Blizzard started to fail. W3 Reforged.. come on. D4 looks like a dream to fans. And they loved it.
Hope this will happen to BG 4. Im sure that BG3 will sells well. Unfortunetlly. But not as expected, and maybe if not our dissapointment, they money will talk the thier senses

Blizzard got corrupted becasue they became so large. When diablo 1 and 2 came out, it was a small little company. They lost their way. The mobile is hot garbage and an insult to hard core fans.

I have no sense that the Devs for BG3 are greedy. Prove me wrong though if you want. I'd accept it, but I have got nothing but positive from the devs. It's just a confusing mess.

Wow what a rude and intolerant post, viewing and way of thinking man. You should rly grow up and let other people have their opinion here. If you don t like it, stop reading and go along. Thank you

This is Baldur's Gate: Original Sin 3. Plain and simple.

It's not just the shitty TB combat system. The graphics is that same D:OS cartoony ugliness. Character creation is extremely limited because they clearly want you to play a certain character. The companions are all very contrived and set in how the devs want them to be and we don't get to shape them as we want. Party size is reduced to four purely to benefit co-op play, so essentially that is a 'screw you' to single players. The list goes on and on.

This is Larian taking the BG franchise and gifting it to the D:OS fanbase while telling at least a part of the BG fanbase, and a pretty big piece of it at that, to drop dead.

Baldur's Gate to me has always been about the story, and how you tell it and interact with it. I will admit that I was nervous when I first saw the game footage. I agree that it did not really look like BG. However, I think that it has great potential. I have played table top RPG for a while and one of the challenges that I had with BG and BG2 is the difficulty of playing multiplayer. I understand the frustration of moving to a turn based combat however I think that it will play a lot better with my family and friends as turn based. (also I love the sneaking, it makes a rouge actually worth playing)

These have just been some of my mixed thoughts about the new information. I think that it is important to remember that the game is not out yet and some things may change aesthetically. Also as I said earlier I think BG has been about the story and I think we can all agree that we would not like it to be spoiled to satisfy our curiosity. Overall I am looking forward to playing the game when it comes out.

I wouldn't pay much attention to them. S/he's posting much the same on several threads. My impression from their use of language, overall writing and grammar and the form of his/her responses....I'd say s/he is quite young. Young enough in fact I don't think s/he was even born when BG1 and/or 2 were originally released.

Reality is, ultimately, I just want to play a good single-player, D&D 5e game. This is looking like that game.

I do find their use of the '3' exceptionally distasteful at present, obviously...but like the game itself, that thought/feeling is not final.

Perhaps there are significant connections to BG1 & 2, perhaps not. Perhaps Larian will remove the '3', perhaps not. They seem like an enormously reasonable studio that, if they think about it and realize there really is no connection of any significance to truly justify the '3', they just drop it (if it's not a binding condition imposed or insisted upon in their deal with WotC of course...then they might agree all the live long day the '3' doesn't belong and there's scant they can do about it anyway).

Will I buy this even with the '3'? Yes, probably, once the full, non-early access release is out, since it still offers something (of quality) I want.

I remember getting BG when I was 17, loved it. Still love it. Played through the trilogy every couple years, still do. Played all the Infinity Engine games, loved them. Loved TOEE even, with all the bugs. Played all the gold box games with my Dad when I was growing up, still have a soft spot for Eye of the Beholder II. Played all the newer renditions, POE 1, 2, Kingmaker, also played Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, loved them too.

I also play PNP 5E. What I saw yesterday, while everyone was talking about how it looked so much like Divinity 3 or some such, was how a developer has tried to faithfully implement 5E in a video game. I was impressed. The game is using a modified D:OS2 engine, so naturally it shares some of the look of it. But there are several differences, the cut scenes, the character models. The introduction of the Z-axis to DND is very exciting, the introduction of legitimate stealth mechanics is very exciting, as stealth in the BG games and IE games in general, for that matter, was pretty bad.

I might be in the minority when I say that I did not want this game to bring me back to my childhood. Would I like some story elements to reminisce? Sure. Maybe even re-introducing a certain character or two, would scratch the nostalgic itch. But was I expecting the game to look like a re-skinned Infinity Engine game that follows the Bhaalspawn, and this and that? No. Not only did I not want that, but it would do a disservice to what Larian is trying to do. Ultimately, WOTC approached them, because they liked what they saw with D:OS2. They clearly want it to faithfully attempt to recreate the 5E tabletop experience, and I, for one, welcome this.

I hope to introduce my son to it when he gets a little older. The real nostalgia will be coming from trying to recreate the father/son experience I had with my Dad playing the gold box games and EOB trilogy, that is the only nostalgia I'm looking forward to.

Give it a chance, if you want, you may find the "new" can sometimes rekindle the feelings you once had, when a sufficient amount of time has passed.

@Morcaster , i do understand your feeling completely , i've been called a baby boomer which i find amusing since im 27 :)) , the thing is that i played these games at 9-10 and replayed them periodically as i was growing up ( currently have all the enhanced editions installed from BG and IwD and still play them sometimes ) , and while i do agree with your sentiment 100% i still have faith in these developers that they will try and make both fans happy...i guess we'll just have to wait and see , most of the younger people or people who have never had these games being tied to various good moments of our childhoods would never understand this sentiment and will never understand why literally 90% of the old fanbase for these games feel disappointed , for me personally , it's the combat system that kills it , sure it's colorful and has a different tone and has many unrecognizable attributes from past BG games , all of which i can accept and feel fine with , but wasting 30-40-50 extra hours of gameplay for combat while watching mobs and my character stare at each other like zombies waiting to finish each others turn is a very very big let down , i could use those hours either to explore and read lore books and dialogue from the game..or just finishing it and restarting the game with a different hero and different choices throughout , I feel that i'm being robbed of my time for no reason...that's basically my biggest let down.

No, it is when they became driven by and have to answer to shareholders.

And they wouldn't have happened if they hadn't gotten so large because the right people owned the company until. Then this ^^. Same difference really

Iv'e said my peace.
Mostly like won't be coming back.

It is close but it is when the shareholders came in that is the difference, when they were bought buy Activision, they were already large.

>anyone that enjoys innovation is underage
cope harder.

If you cannot apreciate some honest to god advice, then its your own fault.
Nothing can compete with your idealized memories.
The sooner you learn that the sooner youll stop beeing disappointed.