Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Help/Tips/Tricks Saved game problem possible use of hack to fix

Well it starts as so... I load the game to find that the save games crash (both of them and I only have two) I did make copies of both files. I only altered the gold part in the inv.b0 as instructed I tried the skill points too but the lines are not set up the same (still using 16 blocks) I was using the XVI32 and worked fine but I tried installing and using the Hackman 7.02 and the lines were still set up the same and using the same 16 block screen width. and after that the inv.b0 was missing and made the game crash when it was loading. When I took the original inv.b0 file and inserted it into the save game it loaded but the items were different ie. the sword was armor, the shoes were armor and the armor was a weapon and so on even in the trading section the items were different. I then tried deleting the the hacked file and putting a copy of the original back in and it still did the same thing. I have tried uninsalling and re-installing the game and using the original saves but to have it do the same thing. I created a new file and replaced all the inv. files but that gets rid of all of my inventory but does fix the trading problem.

So I have come up with two questions can anyone fix my originals or tell me how to hack in a crystal bag and a summoning doll??

You should be able to find the crystal bag and summoning doll Here - Inventory files

as for fixing your inventory files..... i admit to be clueless, since i am spoilt with a almost-all-knowing Raze <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> He will be along soon enough to give his advice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> Welcome to the forum

[color:"orange"]When I took the original inv.b0 file and inserted it into the save game it loaded but the items were different[/color]

Are you sure you restored the correct original file? If you somehow got the 2 backup inv.b0 files mixed up, that could account for the items being different. You could check the time stamps on the files, and see if they correspond to the other files in the save folder.


[color:"orange"]even in the trading section the items were different[/color]

Was this also a problem with new items? If you trade with new NPCs or open a container (without previously running your mouse cursor over it or hitting the alt key nearby) are these new items also corrupt? If you have the patch installed, BF merchant inventories are regenerated each time you enter, so that would be an easy way to check. I'd guess new equipment should be ok, even if existing stuff was corrupt.


[color:"orange"]can anyone fix my originals[/color]

The original files back in their original save folders should put everything back the way it was. If you didn't mix up the files (either between saves or original/edited versions), I'm not sure what the problem could be.


[color:"orange"]or tell me how to hack in a crystal bag and a summoning doll??[/color]

The Inventory files topic contains a link to instructions and downloads for the crystal bag and act 2 summoning doll. I'll have to reload one of my old saves to get the files for the act 1 doll, which appears to be what you require.

However, if you have to reset your inventory, it might be better to keep your current inventory files, and sell or drop all the 'corrupt' items (quest items, charms, crystals, summoning dolls, etc should be unaffected). After that, you can repeatedly enter the BF to look for and purchase new equipment.

Thanks for the help I haven't tried anything yet but there seems to be one more problem.....(Boourns) The problem is durring the first time you are summond and after you have defeted the witch, you can still run around the battlefields but after you exit them it boots you out of the game or if it doesn't it boots you out when you try to go up the stairs to talk to the paladin. Oh and I am using v1.47 of the game. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

P.S. Yes I am sure I used the originals. I made copies of the folder not just certain files just so I wouldn't get them mixed up, or if something went wrong with the file period.

P.S.S. The original problem might be a bit different than I thought...maybe... I managed to get teleported back and save the imp from the pit but after running around a bit the game crashed... the thing is that it seems as if you move to far away from your characters it starts laging then freezes for about 5 sec. and resumes but if you continue it crashes. Although doing so before eerything even started (installing the Hackman 7.02 and so on) you could go as far away as you wanted with no lag or anything (there were minor gliches such as the mini map being black but that get's fixed after you move in some direction for a bit, or there would be areas that were black but cleared after getting close to them (areas that were alread uncovered that is)). But either thatn that there were few or no problems. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

If you avoid entering the BF during the first of the necromancer's tasks, do you still have a problem with the game crashing? AFAIK there shouldn't be an issue entering the BF from the cursed abbey, though.


[color:"orange"]I made copies of the folder not just certain files[/color]

Have you restored a copy of those folders? They should not have been effected by any editing or file swapping done with other saves.


[color:"orange"]the thing is that it seems as if you move to far away from your characters it starts laging then freezes for about 5 sec[/color]

Do you mean moving the screen focus away from the characters, or splitting your characters up?
The problem with the black mini-map sounds like a known issue in the BF with the fog of war occasionally being reset (it should clear again in largish blocks as you run around).

There was no problem entering the bfs, like I said it started after the hackman thing (wich I also got some trojan horses afterwards that I had to get rid of...(Yeay to Avast! for getting rid of them))(I dont' think it had much to do with hackman I did system restore and annother virus check afterwards (there were none) and that's when it started and I still had the originals that I copied). But yea now it's somewhat better now...kinda... you can play for about 3 min before it freezes up and crashes.



Yes I restored the originals that I have I can send you the originals if you want.



Niether I mean moving the screen ahead of the characters or away from them.

Did you check for critical or driver updates after doing the system restore?
Maybe the system restore removed something you needed, or didn't completely remove the stuff you didn't.

If you run dxdiag (click Start | Run, type in dxdiag and hit Enter), does it report any problems? There are a couple of tests under the Display tab.

If you wish you can zip one of the saves and email it to me (divineone@shaw.ca) to check. The problem sounds more like an issue with the system or the game itself, though. I usually didn't move the screen focus far enough that the characters were off-screen, but when I did (usually due to a mouse slip) I never had any problems.

Did you re-install the game after doing the system restore, or before? There is a way to check the game files (see below), though a clean reinstall should have fixed any corrupt or infected files.


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The install program should report any problems, such as CRC errors, during install. However, if it fails to do so, or a file becomes corrupt after installation, the integrity of the files can still be verified using a program such as FileCheck; download (194KB). This is a small freeware program (no install required) to calculate the CRC-32 values (the cyclic redundancy check used in zip files) of a number of files. It can also compare a previously calculated CRC file with a set of files/folders.

After doing a clean install of BD and rebooting, I deleted the files in the '..\Beyond Divinity\DirectX9' folder (since they are not needed if/once DirectX 9 is installed). Then I used FileCheck to create a crc file of the game folders, installed the 1.45 patch and did so again, both before starting the game (I repeated this procedure with the 1.47 patch). If you compare the appropriate CRC file to your install, it should tell you if there are any corrupt files. You do not need to worry about moving any saved games out of the savegames folder or deleting the files in the dynamic folders, since new files will not be tested by FileCheck, just those listed in the crc file. If you have started the game and changed any options, there will be differences reported in the config.div and keylist.txt files. In my install the '..\Beyond Divinity\Editor\dgen_themes.000' file was also reported to be different.

There are several files in the Beyond Divinity folder created when the game is started or options are changed, including init.cfg, mapids.000, persist.dat, sinfo.000, slashed-d3d6.cfg, slashed.cfg, sound.cfg and starlog.txt. A couple other files are also added, but another crc file including these wouldn't help much, since most or all are system or option dependent, so these files would usually be reported as different regardless of being valid or corrupt.
At least the config.div, slashed.cfg and slashed-d3d6.cfg files in the Beyond Divinity folder can be deleted, and the configuration program / game will recreate them the next time it is started.

Beyond Divinity CRC files (285 KB)
[*] These crc files are based on the UK English version; the North American version should be the same, I think, but the Australian version will have differences (it uses a different copy protection).
[*] FileCheck expects the files to be in the original locations to verify, so if you installed BD to a location other than the default (C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity), open the CRC file in Wordpad (for example), and do a search-and-replace so the file/folder paths match your install.

If your CRC values match, it is not the game itself, but likely a conflict with something else in your system or a problem in the saved game folder. When examining the list of 'errors' FileCheck produces, potential problem files would be those with an error trying to read, or with a large size difference (especially zero byte files) from the known good install.

I uninstalled and re-installed after I system restored. (I'm not getting this file check thing... I ran it over both files and it was ok ie. check folders (with sbfl box checked) and I verified both aswell as the ones I downloaded.) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"]I'm not getting this file check thing...[/color]

After downloading my zipped crc files you need to extract the 'BD-1.47nostart.crc' file (since you have the latest patch). As described above, if you installed the game to other than the default folder you would need to open the crc file in Wordpad (for example) and do a search and replace to change all the instances of the default path to the actual path.

Next, run Filecheck and switch to the 'Verify' tab. Click on the '...' button beside the 'CRC File' text box, and browse to where you extracted (and possibly edited) the crc file, then open it. After you click on the 'Verify' button, the program will go through my crc file, look for each of the listed files at the same location on your computer, calculate the CRC-32 value of each file it finds and then compare it to the value saved in the crc file. Any differences are then displayed, which may or may not be a problem.


Since you re-installed after the system restore, though, I'd suspect a problem with the system more than a missing or corrupt game file.

Ok I got the filecheck thing and got a list of things that doesn't mach.... it's not pretty...

Well I'll just post it...

Verifying CRCs in file C:\My Shared Folder\BDCRC\BD-1.47nostart.crc ...
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\config.div does NOT match.
OldBytes = 262, NewBytes = 261, OldCRC = C25D2FFD, NewCRC = 9C4E3A87
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\INSTALL.LOG does NOT match.
OldBytes = 526189, NewBytes = 679261, OldCRC = 0553F604, NewCRC = AA6B7A35
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\keylist.txt does NOT match.
OldBytes = 1012, NewBytes = 953, OldCRC = 658EE188, NewCRC = 2C5669C8
Directory C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity does NOT match.
OldBytes = 26543575, NewBytes = 26696587
OldFileCount = 22, NewFileCount = 22
OldMetaCRC = B0B913D2, NewMetaCRC = A3C07387
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Acts\Act1\Map\game.sav does NOT match.
OldBytes = 3920076, NewBytes = 3919216, OldCRC = 74B16E48, NewCRC = AACA99B5
Directory C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Acts\Act1\Map does NOT match.
OldBytes = 7909368, NewBytes = 7908508
OldFileCount = 2, NewFileCount = 2
OldMetaCRC = 5DC2B391, NewMetaCRC = B97FC4CF
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Acts\Act2\Dat\usernotes.bin does NOT match.
OldBytes = 3417, NewBytes = 1733, OldCRC = 8E1B5FBE, NewCRC = E242586F
Directory C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Acts\Act2\Dat does NOT match.
OldBytes = 63776386, NewBytes = 63774702
OldFileCount = 41, NewFileCount = 41
OldMetaCRC = F8AF1CB0, NewMetaCRC = C31FAF3A
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Editor\dgen_themes.000 does NOT match.
OldBytes = 2377817, NewBytes = 1458240, OldCRC = 939F577D, NewCRC = 85796BF6
Directory C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Editor does NOT match.
OldBytes = 6142134, NewBytes = 5222557
OldFileCount = 4, NewFileCount = 4
OldMetaCRC = 496C02AE, NewMetaCRC = DDEE9DF7
File C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Static\intro.mpg does NOT match.
OldBytes = 35692548, NewBytes = 37797892, OldCRC = 0DEA072B, NewCRC = 2A9C9103
Directory C:\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\Static does NOT match.
OldBytes = 185397939, NewBytes = 187503283
OldFileCount = 17, NewFileCount = 17
OldMetaCRC = 84082F33, NewMetaCRC = 82559CB1
Summary does not match.
OldBytes = 1562890521, NewBytes = 1564226756
OldFileCount = 6256, NewFileCount = 6256
OldDirCount = 364, NewDirCount = 364
OldMetaCRC = 2F640A1F, NewMetaCRC = D3DB473C
Verify time = 124.0 sec (19 May 2006 18:02:04)
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Well either UK version is different or I need to do something... which I do not know yet... argh ah well that's what happens with only so much time and money to spend on creating a game... maybe we should make annother patch!!;P Either way I'm still gonna play the game;P no on to more fixing of problems and such.

There do not appear to be any problems with the game files. Some of the differences found are due to simply having changed options, a couple files are modified after the game starts, and Larian updated the intro video at some point after the initial release (your CRC value matches that reported by a couple other people).


[color:"orange"]Well either UK version is different[/color]...

Actually, I also have the UK version. The UK and North American versions are the same, except for packaging.

Hmmm this is still boourns... there was no problem before. Should I re-install once more and delete any files left behind??(excluding the save files ofcourse) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

It couldn't hurt to try...

To do a clean re-install of the game (and patch);
Zip or otherwise backup your saved games folder to another location first, just in case. Each save is a separate subfolder in the '..\Beyond Divinity\savegames' folder; the 5 'bd_act#_start' folders are created/updated by the game/patch, and do not need to be backed up.
Un-install the game, re-boot, in Windows Explorer browse to the 'Beyond Divinity' folder and make sure there are no files or folders remaining, except within the 'savegames' folder (though the 5 'bd_act#_start' folders should be gone). After that, shut down all non essential programs (especially anti-virus), re-install the game, re-boot and shut down all non essential programs again. At this point you may be able to start the game and see if any problems persist. However, if you saved games in the patched version, they will not be playable in the unpatched game version. After that you can (optionally) reboot and shut down all non-essential programs before re-installing the patch.

You may also want to try re-installing DirectX.

Question why turn off the anti-virus?? Also if I just take a blank inv.b0 file and put it in the saves (originals) what would happen?? (it crashed the first time I tried)

Well I have a brand new file that seems to work just fine. I went over some of the starforce sections and it seems that it causes some problems I tried removing it which requires you to re-start your computer and when it's finished and you try to go into the game it asks you i you want to re-start your computer to finish insatlling... oh and my file that I have seems to crash frequently as for my girlfriends file it seems to work a lot better, with one other problem. When she falls into the hole just outside the imp village where you get your first teleport stone/pyramid. You say yes and the historian says he'll be back later and so one and gives you the stone but it is no where to be found (not on the ground or in the inventory) I searched the inventory and used the scroll bar to go to the bottom of every page but no-one has it...

The real-time portion of anti-virus programs try to intercept, read and scan everything being read from or written to disk. This can cause problems with any program that is trying to read or write a lot of data, particularly install programs and games. That said, if you don't have a problem leaving an anti-virus program enabled, there is no reason to disable it. The clean re-install description assumes there was some problem, so eliminating all non-essential background programs is the safest way to re-install the game, since it eliminates one potential source of problems.
I once tried installing the drivers and default software for a sound card on a computer someone else had installed an anti-virus program on (which I didn't notice at first). The install was very slow, and eventually just locked up the computer. After rebooting and disabling the anti-virus, the install proceeded normally.


The Starforce copy protection is required by the game, and will be automatically re-installed if it is removed. You could try a manual update, which might provide newer drivers than those included with the last patch. However, I would expect copy protection problems to effect all saves pretty much equally.
Updating or removing StarForce drivers


If you say yes to the imp historian he should put the teleporter stone directly into your hero's inventory (miscellaneous section, most likely on the left side near the category tabs, if there is room there). Try saying no; in that case he should drop the pyramid on the ground.
Check the secondary skill menu (icon by the portrait) for your characters; after the imp leaves there should be a couple new icons, one to use a teleporter and the other to drop and use one.

There wern't any new icons I checked but I will try saying no.

Yea saying no didn't help guess I need to hex it in... Also I finished three of the merchants quests but only one is complete...

In the save you sent me I have no problem getting the teleporter stone. When you mentioned replacing the inv.b0 file before, was that from another save after getting the teleporter stones, or maybe from a save in act 1 where they might not be listed?
Anyway, the inv.b0 file from my save corrupts most of your equipment, so if the file you used does not, it might be better to use the inventory swap procedure to get the teleporter stone. Hopefully that would also trigger the game to add the icons to the secondary skill menu, though they are not really necessary.


Did you get experience points for the BF quests and they remain open in the quest log, or did you do what was necessary to complete the quest and the merchants did not recognize that? There were some problems with BF quests before the patch, but they should be mostly cleared up.