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we've decided to relocate our dog. we haven't got the time to walk with him enough and with our son, it's difficult to control him. not that he dislikes our son or anything, they both love each other, but I've got to raise my voice too much and that's not the good example for my son.

the sad thing is that we love him so much and that it brings al lot of pain to get rid of him.
we're now trying to find a good new home for him, not a kennel or anything.
we're doing it for both his happines and ours. We think he'll be much happier when he has more opporunities to run free and take walks.

man, i'm crying lika a baby over here


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I’m sorry to hear this Viper, I have a few cats myself that I wouldn’t want to miss for anything in the world.

I hope you’ll find him a good home and if this proves to be difficult, don’t just dismiss the kennel idea. Our husky – she died at twelve-and-a-halve-years old a few months back – once had three puppies. We brought them to a kennel and they all found a home within weeks.


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We have special dog training schools here ... Maybe in your country there are some, too ?


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A good dog becomes like a member of the family, so I totally understand your feelings, Viper.

You're acting for the right reasons, though, and that'll help.


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we're doing it for both his happines and ours. We think he'll be much happier when he has more opporunities to run free and take walks.


Sorry, but this is simply a lie to yourself. Your family is his pack, that's the most important thing for him. If he was a part of this pack for his whole life, he may show up massive disturbed behavior if you relocate him.

As Alrik told you, look for a special dog trainer with a lot experience in dog&child-trainings.


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Damn. That's really unfortunate. I often wonder how we'll go when we have kids. There'll be two cats (elderly), a dog (puppy, or middle age by the time we have a kid), and two kids (rat-bags). It'll be interesting. I'm going to make a way for it to work if necessary.


When I was moving house once, I transported both of my cats over at the same time. When I reached the new house, one of them, Gwen, got out of the car before we could get a hold of her. She panicked and ran away in directions I couldn't chase her. I was sad to see her go, but I knew that she'd be alright. I only felt sad because I'd never see her again. I knew she could look after herself and another loving family would take her in.

Four days later, we were watching TV. My other cat, Litha, was meowing at the door to be let out. I ignored for five minutes him until the show was finished. Finally I looked over at the meowing bugger. He wasn't meowing. He was laying there lazily. Wait a sec, that's Gwen's meow! Sure enough, Gwen was hiding under the car. She must have smelled Litha's scent, and despite her hatred of Litha, knew that it meant I was there too. Gwen was still healthy and well. In fact, she looked a little better than usual.

We still have them both now, Gwen getting old and arthritic, Litha just being his usual self, and now there's Alicia our Japanese Spitz puppy. I consider this (mild) practice for when we have kids.

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Viper, a dog trainer isn't a bad idea. Both me and my mother go to a dogschool. There we learn how to train our dogs in an efficient way and at the same time, the dogs interact with eachother and other people. One of the exercises we have to do is let someone else take the leash of our dog and let them walk a short distance. If the dog starts to growl or something similar, we have to punish it.
This way the dog learns that it has to allow other people to touch it and give it commands. It also reduces their hostility towards strangers.
Ofcourse if your dog's just playing, and doesn't mean any harm, it's a tottaly different matter. Our dogs like to jump against people when they're happy, and we aren' able to unlearn this behavior. It can be pretty annoying, I got a 5 year old cousin, and when the dogs see him, they just jump at him, causing him to fall.
Still, don't discard dog training as a solution, if you don't have the time to train him, maybe your wife/girlfriend has. It would make your life a whole lot easier.


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Both me and my mother go to a dogschool.


You are a dog ??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


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Damn, Alrik, never suspected anyone would find out the truth, now I gotta run from the mad scientists again!

What I mean is that we both go train with our dogs at a 'school' twice a week. We're divided into groups. It's really worth the time, even the puppy-class. I don't know if your dog knows any commands Viper, but even the most basic commands like Sit, Stay and Lay Down can be very useful.


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Yes, I also heard that this is really worth it.


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well that's the thing. we DID go to a school and he does know the basics like 'sit', 'lay down' and such, but he's quite stubborn which results in me raising my voice to actually make him DO a commnd I give him. he's mostly like "yeah whatever, i'll obey, but i'll do my own thing right after that". so I always have to sa STAY as well, and even then it's a struggel sometimes.

it's just that I don't wanna raise my voice / shout anymore in front of the baby. I don't see it as a good example for him.

also: Bacchus just can't seem to understand that the litter bin is OFF limits as many other things, and this results in constantly watching him where he goes, and drool hanging all over the place, including clothes and such. it's just not fun anymore. if he'd listen and be a good boy it would all be different.

It's sad to say that we misjudged the breed (beagles).

nontheless: the dog goes, Cédric is much more important


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it's just that I don't wanna raise my voice / shout anymore in front of the baby. I don't see it as a good example for him.


It's not neccesary to raise your voice by training a dog. They can hear VERY good, you know.... The clue is the right way to train it. If you find a good dog trainer, he'll show you to command your dog just with signs of your hands...


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it's just not fun anymore. if he'd listen and be a good boy it would all be different. It's sad to say that we misjudged the breed (beagles). nontheless: the dog goes, Cédric is much more important


And that's the reason why dogs (and animals at all) shouldn't be sold to some people.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif" alt="" />


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So you want something that will listen to your every command? But all lifeforms: humans, animals, plants, micro-organisms, etc., have a will of their own. If you're looking for absolute obedience without any questioning/resistance, well... not even an animal will be able to give you that.

Actually, I suggest that you keep the dog 'cos contact with animals often allows children to grow up with better empathy towards people and other animals. But ultimately, it's your choice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Edit: Perhaps he's resisting you 'cos he knows doing that will piss you off?

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ok, after a good discussion with my wife, we've decided to keep Bacchus after all. we concluded that we wanted to get rid of him for the wrong reasons and that we're not like that.

So now we're gonna make soms changes and hope things get a little better. i'm also gonna train him a bit more and get him some new toys.


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Good for you and good for him! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Hope it works out well.

P.S. I really like the name Bacchus for a pet! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" />


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This is good! good luck, Viper <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I'm glad you've been able to work something out.

I say, when the kid is old enough, train the kid to look after the dog. The kid is kept busy and the dog is maintained. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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So now we're gonna make soms changes and hope things get a little better. i'm also gonna train him a bit more and get him some new toys.


This is finally the right decision. First you have to train your dog to follow your commands by NOT raising your voice. Your eyes, your face and the expression of your body is much more important for him to understand your commands. Speak strict but calmly and look in his eyes by saying "No" if you don't want him to do something. Then ignore him to show that you dislike his behavior. Use little Snacks as reward and play with him, if he did something right.


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Ahhh it seems i showed up too late again, and missed another happy ending...
Sorry to hear Viper...it's sad giving up an animal...


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