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I couldn't find any other place to approtiately place this topic.. I Found nothing much on LED

I don't even know if any users of this game even exist anymore, I know for a fact that LED is not abandonware I believe, I've seen it in other places for download as a demo or the full version paying a small tiny fee.

I tried googleing for some help and found nothing..

No manuals no nothing and I have the actal CD For The LEd Wars.
It just comes with no manual.

NOw I don't know what i did but I need some one that is familiar with the game play as you see.

I Run Windows XP and i was able to play it fine

The mouse scrolls the screen for you.. and I don't have any controls on what does what i just know the F1 To F8 Keys can lock special snap spots of the map as you play the game.

I have no idea what i did though I pressed like all the keys once to find out what does what becuase i forgot how to use them and the keylayout, and boom.. Now when I put the mouse pointer to the bottom of the screen.. IT NO LONGER scrolls down o_o;;

I've done everything to even pushing each button once to get it back to how it was.. and now for some reason it just will not let me scroll down anymore.

Has anyone ever had this problem before when the game came out? can anyone please help me?
I am trying to get it to stop.. I've tried un-installing and reduing it all over again with the install and it still won't let me do it.. I even checked the registry data in my REG files.. and I only found one file that just has a blank on it.. I deleted that key and still nothing.. idk. what it is..

If you know any old skool gamers that has this game and can remember anything of it.. please let me know.. or if there is a way to edit the data for me to fix it.. My god I really could use some help..


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Check if you enabled Caps Lock (or Scroll Lock / Num Lock). In Divine Divinity enabling Caps Lock (or holding down the shift key) allowed you to move the screen focus away from the character (to see further or to toss stuff farther away), which resulted in the screen focus not following the character when using stairs, etc. Perhaps something similar was used in LED Wars.

Do you have the radar or a menu bar or something at the bottom of the screen?

There should be a manual.doc file on the CD (at least). I have the DVD case, 2 CD version of LED Wars bundled with Mortyr (a first person shooter), but have not gotten around to trying it yet.


Hotkeys
· 'c': Localize your construction vehicle
· 'x': Make current selection active
· 's': Make current selection sentry
· SHIFT+'q': Quit game
· 'r': Toggle radar
· 'h': Jump to last spot where you were attacked
· 'o': Toggle options screen
· CTRL+'1'..'9': Create bookmark
· '1'..'9': Jump to bookmark
· CTRL+F1..CTRL+F10: Record current selection
· F1..F10: Jump to and select recorded selection
· SHIFT+F1..SHIFT+F10: Do not jump to but select recorded selection
· 'a': Make friends with unit side you are pointing at with your mouse
· ENTER: Send messages in multiplayer mode



If nothing else helps, you should be able to move or copy any saved game files/folders to another location, and then just delete the LED Wars folder and re-install it and the patches (the version I have has the 2 patches on the CD as a separate install).


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I bought an specimen one or two months ago, by the way.

Haven't installed it yet.


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 Originally Posted By: Raze
Check if you enabled Caps Lock (or Scroll Lock / Num Lock). In Divine Divinity enabling Caps Lock (or holding down the shift key) allowed you to move the screen focus away from the character (to see further or to toss stuff farther away), which resulted in the screen focus not following the character when using stairs, etc. Perhaps something similar was used in LED Wars.

Do you have the radar or a menu bar or something at the bottom of the screen?

There should be a manual.doc file on the CD (at least). I have the DVD case, 2 CD version of LED Wars bundled with Mortyr (a first person shooter), but have not gotten around to trying it yet.


Hotkeys
· 'c': Localize your construction vehicle
· 'x': Make current selection active
· 's': Make current selection sentry
· SHIFT+'q': Quit game
· 'r': Toggle radar
· 'h': Jump to last spot where you were attacked
· 'o': Toggle options screen
· CTRL+'1'..'9': Create bookmark
· '1'..'9': Jump to bookmark
· CTRL+F1..CTRL+F10: Record current selection
· F1..F10: Jump to and select recorded selection
· SHIFT+F1..SHIFT+F10: Do not jump to but select recorded selection
· 'a': Make friends with unit side you are pointing at with your mouse
· ENTER: Send messages in multiplayer mode



If nothing else helps, you should be able to move or copy any saved game files/folders to another location, and then just delete the LED Wars folder and re-install it and the patches (the version I have has the 2 patches on the CD as a separate install).


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IT doesn't matter.. I tried all those keys and the version that I have is 1.13b

I don't have any patches or anything I am running this on windows XP HOme SP2 on I tried all those caps lock configurations like you said.. and tried to use the keys to get them.. this CD version does not have a manual or anything just a quick setup that tells you can run this game off the CD it self.. I pulledo out my old hard drive and it runs windows MILENNIUM on it. I put that on this PC that I use.. it's a IBM Levono A50 8085 MOdel.. WIndows Home. When I ran the game on the other operating system, it allowed me to move down.. The mouse pointed to the bottom like I made it too, and the screen scrolled down, I was able to play the game right but when I try it on windows XP. it works.. but see thats the thing, for some reason it used to work! I don't know what happened..

I have no patches no manual I have nothing.. if you could some how get me those patches I would really appretiate it: maybe that might fix the problem, but If it's something to do with windows XP.. then maybe Some one that would know this game well could tell me.. I honestly do not know what happened, I tried all compatibility versions and everything.. i tried wih the text visuals off. I tried it with the 256 color modes, I tried everything on the compat modes. and It still doesn't allow me to MOVE DOWN.. I don't know why..

The Disk that I have here is directly from Ionos Stuidios it self.. It's a small CD case Jewel case and it just has the picture of the intro story in the background with the harvesters and all that jazz.

I do not know what the problem could be... I don't know.. I honestly do not..I'm still trying to crack it, I even deleted and uninstalled the folders like you said to... so blah..

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Are you shutting down all non-essential programs (anti-virus, etc) before starting the game?

I can probably try installing the game tomorrow, but I am still running Win98, so couldn't tell if it is an XP problem.


The two patches bring the game version to 1.15b. Here is a link with the LED Wars patches and manual (505KB).

Quote:
What's fixed in patch 01 (brings the version to 1.14b)

- You can now use ALT+TAB to switch to other applications in Windows 95
- Some misspelling has been corrected
- Some mouse problems have been corrected
- Pause feature now works completely
- Help file has been included
- You can now create order a building to create several units, instead of just one
- Since some people complained the game was too hard, there are now three additional levels of difficulty
- A problem with the save games has been solved
- You can now adjust the growth speed of LED plants

What's fixed in patch 02 (brings the version to 1.15b)

- Units which are active will now engage the enemy if they encounter it on their path
- Units will not stand around idly when an enemy unit passes by
- One of the multiplayer maps has been fixed


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Oh dang The forums was down but yeah.. I did some testing i have three operating systems.

Windows ME

98SE
and Xp

I tried them all

It only does it on XP
Even HOme and PRO

Strange huh?

thanks for the patches though.. Meep xD

shrugs * It sucks I just have to the contructor to move around on the map.. it really makes game play difficult though.. bah....

but yeah .. the curser does not move the scrollling downwards when i point down on Windows XP

it works on all other operating systems i have mentioned.

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If you move your Windows task bar to the top or side of the desktop, does that make any difference in the game?

I don't have access to an XP system right now, but can probably get my brother to try it tomorrow. If the same think happens on his system it is probably due to some change between Win 9x and XP; if the game scrolls properly, it is probably something system dependent (drivers, background program, etc).

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Someone PMed me a link for a fixed executable which solves the problem of not being able to use the mouse cursor to move the screen focus down in Windows XP (never tried it in Vista). There are 2 bytes changed in this file compared to the second patch executable.

Here is the link to the rar file at Rapidshare (165KB), and an alternate link as a zip file here (188KB).

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I bet I am the only one in the UK with the full box version with the manual sheet and huge cardboard end-user agreement! Thanks to the patch I can play the game in XP as before it was seeing the exe as a non win32 executable!

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I didn't even know Larian existed until the DD demo was released. I bought a re-release DVD case version of LED Wars a couple years after that.

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I was lucky to buy a specimen on ebay - CD only in the case, nothing else.


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I have the new patch the works perfectly on XP. its GREAT!!! thanks a lot =]. Anyone wanna try multiplayer sometime?

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I'm not a big fan of RTS games, in general. Maybe I didn't give it enough time to get the hang of, but I seem to particularly suck at LED Wars...


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yeah its a pretty hard one. what im about to do is edit the original version to work under xp. that way you can order your troops around while the game is paused (this was fixed in the patch). and honestly its unfair that the AI can do everything at once, while you cant. so hopefully this works =]. it makes the game much fairer and easier.

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oh and also ive totally mastered the game, so im sure that helped haha. i can beat almost every stage in just a very short time. i wish i could record the gameplay and make something like a walkthrough. this would also increase exposure for this poor game. but switching windows doesnt work under XP. havent found a way to fix that yet.

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 Originally Posted By: wasredskin92
i wish i could record the gameplay


There are a few programs able to do it. I heard that xfire, for example, can do this as well, or/and fraps, but I never used them, actually.




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XFire doesn't support LED-Wars, it's too old/unknown.
Fraps might be an option though, or maybe Gamecam if that doesn't work.


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Fraps works surely,but the nearest version only with watermark "www.fraps.com" for 20 sek. and the newest one is only a buy-version for 37,-$
This video was recorded with the last free version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWymYsHZaxw

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oops,sry..not this one..the next one...but it is not in english...i will post it here,when it is lookable in youtube....sry for that spam


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Sry...video for utube too large...workin' on it

so now...two parts ,in the sescond all cuts are 'filmed' with fraps in hd... all in german but u get a picture

Part1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4UHG1ZhSs
Part2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCiiqbQG4jg

capable only for users of this forum...(if u have the link)

have fun


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how demanding is fraps on the cpu? i have a pretty crappy computer 1.1Ghz, 576RAM and a 16MB video card. i already tried using hypercam and it wasnt able to record it at a good enough framerate. it wasnt even playable

Edit: and what about Gamecam?

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Ooops,witch bad word :)...but this computer is not good to make video's...too lack ram on motherboard and too lack on graficcard....and the cpu is also not the fastest.This is AGP-port for the videocard,isnt it?
Maybe u can try the game to play in lowest solutions like 640X480 ...but which way ever ,that an torture for this computer.


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sadly enough the integrated graphics card is 8MB. i found an old 16MB one. i always wondered why my computer was a good enough processor and RAM to run certain games, but yet they wouldnt. then i saw i had an 8MB video card. i was.....amazed to say the least. i mean come onnnn haha. youd think a computer with a 1.1GHz (it was originally a 1.49GHz before the bios was flashed for some reason) would be new enough to have better graphics. i mean 8MB! it just blows my mind. its sad when you find an old 16MB card and its an improvement. on some website i found a 3.0GHz, 1GB RAM, with i believe a 128MB video card (possibly a 256) for only around 120$. not amazing by todays standards, but it is for the price. unfortunately i dont have the money :(. and ive tried all kinds of settings with this computer. its just a dinosaur.

Edit: plus that computer can be upgraded to 2GB RAM with a cheap $22 memory stick. and i has a couple PCI slots to be upgraded more.

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8 MB ? Wow. And when I consider that modern games more often require at least 256, yet even more MB of RAM ...



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yeah i know. pretty amazing. in a bad way. and scratch that other computer. once i get money soon im gonna build a 3.2GHz, 4GB RAM, with a GeForce 9500 GT graphics card. which has 1GB video memory. all for about $250.

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Keep in mind that Winxp and versions before that cannot handle much more that 2-3 GB of RAM.


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thanks. that computer would come with xp pro pre-installed, but is 1GB RAM originally. ill either upgrade to the best that the OS can handle it or just max it out and get vista or something

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If you really, really want to stick with XP, then go ahead. If you decide or have to upgrade, get Windows 7, not Vista (64 bit is required for 4GB+ memory support, though you would need a 64 bit CPU as well).

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yeah, and i was thinking isnt there a 64-bit xp version?

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There is a 64 bit version of XP, but from what I've heard it has pretty poor driver support.

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yeah that sounds about right. not a very popular OS to begin with, and new ones coming out after. must be basically obsolete

on another note how well does windows 7 do with gaming and multimedia? i dont know anything about it. im sure it requires more RAM because its 64 bit, but thats not really a problem since i can just buy some cheap memory.

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I have heard that several - especially older - games can have difficulties with any 64-version of W/OS.

Edit : And the so-called "xp mode" of Win7 just isn't designed for games. Dunno why.



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thats what i was afraid of. but oh well. i guess i cant complain if i still have 3GB RAM with xp. thatll run games fine

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i finally got a much better computer and made a gameplay video. fraps is the only program that could record this old game correctly, and i dont have the full version, so i had to deal with 30 second clips. otherwise if people are interested id make a walk-through or something. here the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQ0PwXYkE8

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Hey, 30 seconds is about how long I lasted when I tried the game.

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lol yeah its pretty difficult, especially for people just starting to play the game and have no idea what theyre doing. thats why i want to make a better video, since (as shown in the video) i can beat a couple mission within a few minutes

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Originally Posted By: Raze

Someone PMed me a link for a fixed executable which solves the problem of not being able to use the mouse cursor to move the screen focus down in Windows XP (never tried it in Vista). There are 2 bytes changed in this file compared to the second patch executable.

Here is the link to the rar file at Rapidshare (165KB), and an alternate link as a zip file here (188KB).


SOOOO Its been so many years, I decided to go nostalgic and play a few of my old skool games on my XP Gamming rig, I have an new rig but i still keep my old one around for older games for just games only and playing Movies on it.

I just finished playing the entire Doom Collectors edition series and even got into the modding community for messing with WADs and all that fun stuff then Decided to get back into Larian Studios L.E.D... I completely forgot about this forum because I had so many things that came up in life that i had to focus on first..

I wish to extend my thanks to you Raze for this little patch because it cured the down scroll issue. I now can play the game again just like I did back in 2002 when I got it and played it on my old emachines 600 series... it had Windows ME...

I was like.. "Darn it.. the down scroll thing" LOL But I read this and popped that 2 byte change update in and it worked like a charm.. now I can enjoy it once again thanks to your efforts. And I didn't even know that Multiplayer was even still possible.. Maybe there's a patch for that or a seperate code to inject into the game to do multiplayer? If there is.. DO let me know id totally do a few RTS matches with anyone for the heck of it.

I Got into RTSing because of this game actually. its funny it was my first RTS game and then I went to Age of Empires (Very first one) and Cavedog entertainment's Total Annihilation (I have the Commanders edition that has everything including editors) And like so many DLCs that came after it even those made by community end coders and devs.

Theres a thing called TA Spring which I've always wanted to try but never got into it because ya know.. being an adult running a PC business and being engaged, well life catches on to you. But I have to be a kid at heart still now and then so these are my breaks.

I'm a Major Old Skool gammer born 1983 baby just a couple years before the NES was released.. .OH HAPPY DAYS..

Again thank you all for being awesome community !


P.S If those Patches ever fall off the net, hit me up in PM's and I will host the file my self. I do minecraft hosting services and DJ hosting services as a Hobby I'm a internet and locale DJ in Indiana aka DJ Screwloose Station Host name is Random00six (WFR6) wink

Re: The LED Wars [Re: Brickstin] #647778
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I still come back to LED Wars every once in a while! As a matter of fact, after a particularly heavy binge of the game, I started modding it slightly. Just using a hex editor, it was quite tedious to make even the smallest of changes, but I don't know of any other options lol. It was easy to edit units and buildings, since those files have actual text at the start of each corresponding section, then changing unknown values through trial and error. I remember giving the Constructor a weapon, creating a mobile SSSAM (which was the top of a Rocket Launcher on the body of a Heavy Tank), and many other random tweaks.

My personal favorite was finding a way the change the resolution! Took forever, but I remember getting 1024 x 768 and 1280 x 1024 to work. Only issue was that the HUD stayed at 640 x 480 in the top-left quadrant-ish, but this is definitely outweighed by the better FOV and the fact that high scroll speed doesn't make the game nearly unplayable. Here's a video with the higher resolution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpNscVByBQ

I also have some other videos showing the other tweaks I mentioned.
I haven't tried the game much on Windows 10, but I remember the toolbar with file, options, etc. stayed at the top of the screen while playing. This covered the amount of LED you have, which is rather important. At some point I might be interested in trying fixing this. If that's not possible, I could just swap the costs of everything between LED & seeds, with the possibility that it would break the AI. I'd also try to get 1920 x 1080 working lol.

Re: The LED Wars [Re: Brickstin] #647786
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Since you bumped the topic, I noticed/fixed the broken links above for the the patch and XP fix.

Re: The LED Wars [Re: Brickstin] #648092
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Huh, always forget that this one exists. Does anybody hold the rights on the game and why didn't it already get a release on GOG? I don't think it would be a bestseller, but I believe it would be hailed as kind of a rough gem,

I mean, Metal Fatique got published on GOG and nobody remembers Metal Fatique, except me laugh.

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