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I am escorting the zeppelin and I cannot make it to the end without the ship blowing up. My stats are defense 45 offense 63, hitpoints 1315, and mana 940. I try to fly ahead and wipe out the ballistas and nests before the ship gets there, but towards the end there are just too many islands hitting the ship, and I cannot destroy them fast enough. The ship is almost ready to blow when Zandalor exclaims that I am in the home stretch. I even set the difficulty level to casual and still cannot win. I thought the memory battle was tough, not so. Please help fellow gamers. Also, Is there anyway to make my dragon stronger before the end battle, like some better armor. It is also odd that you cannot access the dragon skills to add points as my dragon seems too weak.

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This is the worst part of both campaigns in my opinion, with the well-cave battle being an easy second place. Some tips which have been pointed out in other threads on this topic, and which I've used myself:

Before starting Flames of Vengeance, if you are coming from the original campaign, take off your dragon armor (in dragon form of course) and save it. You can access your battletower in FoV so you could save it there if you want. Be sure to grab the armor before starting the FoV endgame though.

Once in the air at the start of the escort, pause the game and equip your armor. The game gives us default armor that lacks any kind of bonus, which is stupid, and this is why you should use your saved armor from earlier in the game. I prefer to use pieces that boost my offense so I can destroy things faster.

1. You gain a nuke skill on your action bar: use it by flying to the center of a fortified island and setting it off - this will wipe out all nearby structures. It has a long cooldown so use it carefully.

2. Summon your wyvern companion regularly to help keep enemy attention off of you.

3. Don't forget to heal yourself often; I usually did it whenever falling to 50% health in Casual mode.

4. Breathing fire seems to be more efficient than shooting fire spheres, but requires you to be next to your target. With practice you can shoot a fire sphere on the way to the target then finish it off with fire breath.

5. Try to stay well ahead of the escort zeppelin - this requires fast-paced play.

Some people have managed to wipe out everything - I maybe wiped out half of the stuff. I think this mission is the reason why I haven't bothered to play the game since. It really irritated me. I managed to do it on my third attempt, on Casual.

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Thank you for this info. I am at the 2nd chapter in FOV, IE the Guanlet run with the zeppelin and have no armour. Any ideas on how to get my armour or do I have to reply FOV?

I think I know this answer (and I am not going to like it) but please confirm.

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The only way is to have an import character from D2:EG that put his armour in his inventory. Anyway, I made it without armour bonus and I'm not a great player, so you should manage to do it too smile



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Such a disappointment to the game. An Escort mission that defines whether u complete the game or not? seriously??? There are some ppl that are not that good with excorts and i am one, thus i shall never finish this game to the end. I have tried 4 times, not ONE dragon skill book was given during the whole coarse of FOV and yet its the dragon that must save the ending. Not one piece of dragon armor or leveling opportunity was provided, and yet, its the dragon that must save the day.
Very disappointing and Very bad game design.

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Originally Posted by Cutiepie
Such a disappointment to the game. An Escort mission that defines whether u complete the game or not? seriously??? There are some ppl that are not that good with excorts and i am one, thus i shall never finish this game to the end. I have tried 4 times, not ONE dragon skill book was given during the whole coarse of FOV and yet its the dragon that must save the ending. Not one piece of dragon armor or leveling opportunity was provided, and yet, its the dragon that must save the day.
Very disappointing and Very bad game design.


First of all, you do not need any dragon skill books as they are all or most set to maximum level, second, you import your dragon armor from DKS/ED, third, you get new powerful skill which you should use wisely.
you didn't really expect you could just tackle all head on? As in most part of the game, some strategy is required, also you being able to transform into the dragon is most powerful and unique feature of the dragon knights, so of course dragon must "save the day".

I also had problems on my first playthrough, second time i played on nightmare and had no problems at all. I go ahead of the zeppelin and destroy everything i can. Use eye of the patriarch on big islands, they usually have lightning towers in the center, summon wyveryns and use lots of healing potions combined with dragon spirit, combine dragon sphere with dragon breath, and don't forget dragon shield.

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Another very useful tip:

Pause often. In extreme cases pause as soon as one of your weapons is ready.

I would also like to repeat that you should fly way ahead of the zepellin and summon your wyvern whenever possible.

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I've probably played that mission too many times to be able to properly judge the difficulty but I can give a few pointers on how I do it.



I pretty much only use the nuke and the fire ball
A ballista tower goes down with two fireballs
Every time the nuke is up you fly towards the next island with a big central tower and use it to wipe out a bunch at once.
Ignore the zep and just fly ahead.
Don't fly in straight angles and use speedburst to change direction often.

and finally something that saves you a lot of time and well makes it too easy is that the zep is really strong against flying enemies and can take out the spawning towers without any problem so you can mostly just ignore those and focus on lightning/ballista towers


Hope this helps those with problems on this mission.

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Originally Posted by Endurium
This is the worst part of both campaigns in my opinion, with the well-cave battle being an easy second place. Some tips which have been pointed out in other threads on this topic, and which I've used myself:


Just finished the game myself and i agree that Endurium`s tips are very effective in completing this stage of the game. It took me some reloading to beat the escort mission, but once i actually started using the nuke skill it got alot simpler;)

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I failed it twice until I realized i had a new ability which would smash a full island at a time, then it was simple simple, I cleared the way and was constantly getting warned about leaving the zep to far behind so i actually waited for it often in case the mission would auto fail from being to far away

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use the patriarch bomb on nests/lightning towers on the islands

use the zepplin bombardment on single nests

wyvern to crowd control the flyers/dragon burst when they come for you

while waiting for patriarch to cool down fire-bomb/breath the balistas

when the zepplin captain does his suicide/crash into the tower speech, race to the tower asap


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A minor note: If you were wearing dragon armor at the end of Ego Draconis, it automatically appears in your Battle Tower's coffer, no need to take it off. You will need to remember to fetch it before the end, though.

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Can I just get a dragon-sized backpack and fly the bomb there myself?

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Originally Posted by Rupert
Can I just get a dragon-sized backpack and fly the bomb there myself?


LoL! As awesome as that would seem... I could imagine that getting it would be just as hard or not harder than escorting the zep.


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Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy48d5gr3C4

A video full of tips on how to beat this mission. Played on Nightmare skill, no less. It might be a bit harder if you started a fresh level 35 character and have no dragon armor, but that should just mean you need to drink a few more potions. Best watched in fullscreen 720p.

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the only thing i hate about this part is the fact that even if the blimp dosen even get hit, the captain still suiccid himself >.>

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Originally Posted by BarrelDragons
the only thing i hate about this part is the fact that even if the blimp dosen even get hit, the captain still suiccid himself >.>


Oh please. Whats better than seeing a zeppelin ramd up Ygernas...

Much deserved justice if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by legionangel
[quote=BarrelDragons]the only thing i hate about this part is the fact that even if the blimp dosen even get hit, the captain still suiccid himself >.>


Oh please. Whats better than seeing a zeppelin ramd up Ygernas...

Much deserved justice if you ask me.
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just saying if he wanted to die that bad he didn have to bring all his crew with him.
he could have rider the bomb like some other people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueuauKKjPZI&feature=related

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Hmmm... I didn't take off my ED dragon armor. I didn't take armor out of the chest before the final battle... and it all appeared in my inventory what I was wearing in ED during that scene.
(together with the Eye, which is odd, since it should have been on the zeppelin... why am I carrying it?)

Are you saying that shouldn't have been so? :S

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Took me about 20 tries to finish the final run of the game. I didn't fly ahead of the zepplin and thus it took me way too many tries to beat the final part of the game even on casual which is what I usually play all my games on if they have that option. The first 3/4 of the escort mission was easy. It was the last run where you are clustered by so many enemy balistas and lightning towers that screw you over. They should have made the last part of the run as easy as the first part if playing on casual. If playing at higher difficulties, make it harder.

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I also had problem on casual with Zeppelin Escort, until i manage to find the tactic. The tactic is as many already said simple, one need to fly away from the Zeppelin as far as you can get simultaneously when killing the nest and ballistas. Keeping a range distance from zeppelin, and the game is easy.


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Checked for sure this time, and true enough... what I was wearing as Dragon in the Hall of Echoes appears in your inventory during this FoV sequence.
None of the battle tower ones though, you have to manually take them out of the box...

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One other thing during the escort - make sure you stay near the line of floating arrows, as that
is the path the zeppelin will take. I found out the hard way that if you drift too far away the
zeppelin is destroyed post haste.


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Floating arrows ??? confused

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Yep. It's easy to not notice them, but they're there. If you can't see them get just in
front of the zeppelin at it's altitude, and look in the direction it's flying, and they should be obvious.


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Just finished the game for the first time; and I didn't have any problem with the escort mission even though I was playing on the hardest difficulty available to me. I did notice that the armor I was wearing at the end of ED was in my inventory when I took dragon shape, and quickly swapped out the junk I started the scenario with. I think the +40% Offensive and +40% Mana helped quite a bit.

Otherwise I just flew ahead of the Zeppelin with right click and destroyed all the buildings. I didn't bother with the flying enemies and just let the Zeppelin kill them. By the end the Zeppelin was only down to about 70% and I never paid it any attention at all. I didn't even notice I had a new skill called Bombardment until the very end and I never used it once. I also never used Wyvern Friend.

Trick seemed to be A) Use right click to get to those enemy towers ASAP, don't wait for the Zeppelin even if it complains about getting to far ahead. B) One fire sphere while you are closing on a ballista + Fire Breath destroys a ballista in about a second.

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I can sympathize with those having difficulty, this game has a penchant for unexpected spikes in difficulty. However, having said that I can give a few pointers on what I did.

Difficutly: Nightmare, Zeppelin is 95%+ health upon Captain announcing a suicide run. Few moments before the cutscene, Zeppelin is reduced to 75% in a matter of seconds (freakin cluster of islands near the end did that. Question is, would the cutscene have been halted if it died there?). I don't have a vid but only a save game when the last leg was announced.

What I did
- As others have said already, fly ahead... never wait... and kill more.
- Ignore flyers and concentrate on structures (nests are the least priority. I destroyed a few cause there's a point where there's nothing else to kill but nests. But IIRC there are nests surrounded by towers, I nuked those.)
- Always think of the next island you're going to nuke. Every time my nuke is recharged there's a big cluster of structures in front of me to use it on. Also, keep an eye on your mana and the nuke recycle time, make sure you have enough mana to dish out the nuke when its ready for use again. So, in effect, you're using your nuke regularly.
- Always prioritize the structures near the path of the Zeppelin (good thing the path is highlighted with golden arrows). Kill outwards.

well, I think everything I can come up further has already been mentioned so I'll stop here. The mission is not impossible. There are situations in other parts of the game that I think is a lot worse than this.

Well if what I said didn't work then there's only one explanation... I was just lucky.

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After a search on the forum I came across thistopic wink

Thanks for the tips, because I try so far 3 times, but loose frown ...
It seems to me playing on PC is more comforteble for this kind of mission ?
I play on Xbox and those damned flying enemies ! Every time I try to focus on a Balista, the camera focus wish to focus on a flying enemy ! That's not funny ... .
So I loose time .

With the new insigths now I hope I've more luck next time, otherwise I lower the difficulty, maybe it can help a little bit ? (by the fight with Zagan even on Casual it was a little nightmare eek ! )





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sorry to hear that. My game is for the PC so I wouldn't know much about the xbox. I'm guessing that the console is using auto-targeting? I don't know how the auto-targeting works in the xbox, does it function for the closest enemy to you or the closest enemy near the targeting reticle?

However, maybe you could use the dragon rush (dash or something) so that the balista is immediately closer to you thus for either case it should auto-target the balista.

BTW Zagan, that's the "oh bugger" last words wasn't it? smile
I had difficulty with that too (nightmare mode) but, the last time I played I went straight for the nest and it was manageable.

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I make it with the Zeppelin Escort smile But I lower the difficulty to Casual !
I set on the difficulty back to nightmare, but Ygerna was like "casual" as the Zeppelin Escort was as nightmare on Casual :hihi: ... pffff ....

The idea of escorting a Zeppelin is nice, really good idea, but I hope if such escort ever comes back a a next game, make it a little bit "slower" ! It was fun to burn down Ballista's etc, but I haven't had the TIME to really enjoy this battle because it was a hurry, otherwise the Zeppelin goes down before he reach the place where it "successful" crashed into Ygerna's Fortress ...

I am very enthousiastic about Flames of Vengeance, but please, next time make a End-battle in that way :
the hero must/can combine human & dragon form in one area ... ! To find out when it's good to be in dragonform or when it's better in humanform it's all up to the gamer his/her strategical plan .
On that way there's more posible to play it successful in different ways ! Each gamer has his/her own playstyle and via the Skills it's great to choose those skills that suits best !
For example :
I'm a slow player, so skills as Stun Arrows, Polymorph, Chaarm, Blind, Hide in Shadows, etc.. give me MORE time to think about next move or run away :hihi: )

But during the Zeppelin Escort mission at the Black Ring Armada (great name, great looking place),
I can't say I had the time ... to loose some "seconds" to fly a little back or whatever . I only concentrate on the Ballista's and use the Eye of the Patriarch on the bigger groups of Ballista's etc ... even on Casual difficulty !

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here is my tips :

first you should see that line trip our zeppelin, make sure you go first as far as you can + as fast as you can to clear that ballista, lightning tower or nest who in that way...........

second you should use your ultimate skill A.K.A. eye of patriach in worthy I mean use eye patriach to fresh land with surrounding ballista or nest

I didn't use fire breath but I always cast my fireball on time, after recharge don't keep you fireball skill waste just use it to ballista and nest when you can cast for it...............



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