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Thought I might as well start the topic.

Bug: When picking Traits in the character creation menu, only the first half of the word is highlighted. It looks like the indentation of the words is not recognized somewhere, so it thinks all the words are starting farther left.

This is frustrating before one realizes what is wrong because it seems like traits have no description.

Edited in Bug 2: Scarlet's hair clips through the "Well-Made Bonnet" item significantly.

And Bug 3: DoT kills still appear to not give experience, or at least no experience prompt. I will test this further.

Annnnd Bug 4: With 10 Int and 1 water magic skill, my wizard is healing for 28 per turn with the basic heal. That's... kind of a lot.

Update 1.0.114:
Branch + Branch = Staff (random) Can still be made with only 1 branch.

Scarlett as a cleric starts the game not at full HP with basic choices. 36/43 vitality.

I've seen this problem with Warrior and Ranger choices as well, prior to today's patch.

Attacking Junius or Bibius from far enough away doesn't result in combat.
Killing this way only nets XP if both are killed.
Killing Bibius first and walking up to Junius results in a dead Bibius speaking.
Killing Junius first results in a silent Bibius.
It's possible to have 2 dialogues about killing innocents. 1 for killing Bibius and another when you kill Junius.

Dead Bibius Speaks Vid

That video gives a "this video is private" error. Just FYI.

Edit: Now it is working for me. Weird. All right, whatever. Lol

That's weird it's set to unlisted and works even if I log out of Youtube. Maybe it hadn't fully updated when I posted.

Guards dying to effects don't reward XP. Not sure if intended. Tested by setting the ground around Junius on fire and he died as a result.
Placing items in slot 0 and pressing the 0 key doesn't work.

- When arriving at the Homestead, I had Scarlett tell Zixzax that she had no intention of helping him, but Roderick didn’t have the option to disagree.

- Jahan has no “sitting” pose on chairs. When you tell him to sit he telepors to standing inside a chair. EDIT: At least for the dining chair in the Hall of Heroes. Madora sat just fine.

- If Jahan/Madora is the lead character and has an exclaimation mark, when you talk to one of the main characters, Jahan/Madora’s portrait appears twice.

- If Jahan, separated from the party, is the one who uses the teleporter pyramid though, when he arrives, it’s Roderick who gets the dialogue choice. After you pick, the camera pans to wherever he is and you see the Situation Bonus: -100 above his head.

- Madora is unable to sit down on a bench. Instead of sitting, she is just standing in the middle of the bank

If you choose to let the Charmed Orc live (or lose the conversation) and then teleport the orc away and kill her, she apparently resurrects herself and goes back and kills the guards.
Also if you attack the Orc after choosing to let her live both guards are against you. Shouldn't the one who said to kill her be on your side??? I understand the one who is in love with her attacking but the other guy wants her dead.

Minor heal potion = Minor heal potion = Medium heal potion works having only one potion.

Just noticed speaking to Maxine, if I spam select the same chat option she jumps over and over, as often and quickly as you press it, can't recall anyone posting that so here it is.

K seems to be standard graphical bug I just hadn't noticed before due to chat not having zoomed in, for speaking to anyone they repeat the same animation when you select a response, and if you read like I do they tend to look a little silly stopping less than halfway through an animation then immediately starting it again.

Okay, played for a few hours. First off, it's immediately clear that some important issues got fixed in this build, even though they didn't necessarily get mentioned in the changelist:

+ You can now scroll down and to the right regardless of any interface elements. Thank you for this, it really improves the playing experience.

+ Markers can now be put on the map simply by pressing Enter instead of having to click Accept. However, I'm still not sure how to remove them, does anyone know? Perhaps this should be more obvious.

+ There is now a quicksave message. This is an improvement, but I think instead of a pop-up I would prefer a discrete message in the top corner of the screen, the way most modern games do it.

+ The healing spell is no longer completely useless.

+ Flare no longer has unlimited range.

However, some problems still persist and it seems that some new ones were created. Fortunately, the latter should be easy to fix. In no particular order:

- Enemies sometimes still make saving throws against elemental damage after they have died.

- Dead enemies will turn into either a body or a grave, presumably depending on the way in which they died. I assume this is not the intention.

- Markers persist even after starting a new game. This was actually fairly useful for me, but again I'm assuming it's not intentional.

- The Resurrect Scroll is still called 'Resurect Scroll'. It's missing an R.

- The economy is broken because random junk items mostly sell for either 11 or 16 gold. Loot a bunch of random crates and you will have enough money to buy new equipment. Just outside of Cyseal, I found some wheat worth 31 gold. It's too easy to get money in this build.

- Completed quests still don't get filtered automatically, this seems to be a difficult problem to fix since it's one of the only major interface problems still around after all the updates.

- Sometimes there is no option to say 'I'll take my leave' when you start a conversation, meaning you have to click something else first.

- I made Roderick sleep in one of the beds in Thelyron's clinic. There were some animation problems as part of his body clipped through the bed. I assume this holds true for many other character/bed combinations as well.

- Suggestion: an optional autosave feature. I am assuming this will get implemented anyway, but I think it would be useful even in the alpha.

- There is still no Game Over screen when both your characters die.

- I can still walk through the horse carriage in the side room in the warehouse.

- If you load a game while playing, the message still reads 'you will loose all unsaved progress' instead of 'you will lose all unsaved progress'.

- When you ask Reginald about the story of the talking head, he mentions 'hubub' instead of 'hubbub'.

- This one might be due to my own lack of understanding of the trade mechanics, but Arhu kept refusing my offer even though his attitude was at 0 and the two sides were evenly balanced in terms of value. I couldn't figure out why.

- During the mayor's tour of the library, at one point he talks about 'Vicotria' instead of Victoria.

- You still have to spend all skill points before the leveling arrow goes away. It should be enough to just allocate however many you want while saving the rest for later if desired.

- One of the bookcases in Evelyn's house (the one that doesn't contain her diary) only seems to be accessible through the outer wall of the house.

- There is a graphical glitch with two-handed axes where characters like to wield them in a rather unorthodox fashion:



- Suggestion: different icons for regular books and skill books. I assume this is in the works anyway, but still.

- It is not clear to me what the difference is between Dust Devil and Whirlwind, except that the latter does more damage.

- My party got stuck inside the lighthouse and was unable to leave through the door opening. The only way I managed to get out was by using the Teleporter Pyramid. I have no idea what triggered this bug. The door itself was destroyed during the fight in front of the lighthouse, maybe the debris were blocking my path, but somehow only when I wanted to leave.

- It is possible to gain infinite Exploration XP. This is the case in Esmeralda's back room and

Esmeralda's secret room

at the very least. You can just run around in circles there and trigger the XP over and over.

The last two issues are the most serious ones since they are potentially game-breaking. Again though, this build seems to be an improvement in many ways. It introduced new bugs as well, but they should be much easier to fix.

Cat Arhu doesn't say anything when you say Tell me more about yourself.
When you attempt to sit on the stool outside of Esmeralda's, you sit through it. I always thought it was a table holding the apple, book, and bottle, but it's apparently a chair.

Bug - Coding

Priority - Medium / high

Cecil's council room still has a rather vicious memory bug in it (mentioned before regarding the door). Quicksaved in there before dialogues / mass looting, game crawled to a halt, and hung while I was looting the table before the door. Reloaded - game started slow, crashed by the time I left & entered the inn. I was using <alt> to highlight the heist both times, however on the second reload I didn't loot any items.

Both times, had to alt-tab out, to see the windows "this program has stopped responding..." pop-up (without the internal crash reporter triggering). Looking at resources, memory usage went from ~1 gig > 1.4 gig on both occasions from this room.

Something in here is odd/breaking stuff, only this build has resulted in crashes, however. Prior builds had this slow-down / game-breaking "unable to use anything" result, the client hanging is new.


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Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Crates now seem to have a much lower % chance of containing items; the majority are empty. Could just be luck. 9/10 empty so far.

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Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Docks area just west of the burning boat now has a rope blocking access to the crates - you can port them, but only at a weird angle. i.e. you can't port them over the rope, but you can port them inside the area, and smash them.

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Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Muddy boots vanished! Could be a content change, but they're not by the fishing boat to the east area of the docks.

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Bug - Mechanics

Priority - Medium

To second the "no XP on environmental damage", oil barrels don't attribute DoT damage to invoker (i.e. character that forces them to burst), neither do they trigger hostility or criminal behaviour. Will test this further, with ++environment damage, looks like a good way to kill off vendors with no penalty.

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Bug - Mechanics / Code

Priority - Medium

Triggering the fish thief conversation, on a 1st time new game of this build, no quickloads, resulted in multiple (3-4) traits unlocking and being randomly given +, on both characters. Up to this, I skipped the bridge NPCs (i.e. "take me to the wizard") and had only done the rain / burning boat quest.

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Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Getting the two bridge guards (J&B) to escort you results in them dematerialising when the orcs + cultist spawn. They simply vanish, and on speaking to Arnu, the journal isn't updated (nor do you get XP).

The "kill the chicken" dialog choice triggers infinitly.

There are some issues with portraits on dialogs, sometimes Scarlett (speaking character) is in both windows, somtimes it's just transparent. Happened in the market with the sheep owner.

Still, great improvment for 32bit users, thanks and keep up the good work !

Currently when I've spoken to Sam about Maxine, go speak to her, then come back to Sam to take the quest further, after I exit the dialogue it starts combat with everyone in the area.

Fleeing combat and coming back seems to fix it for now.

I've just gotten to Esmerelda's rooms, haven't been able to duplicate the above mentioned infinite exploration exp. Also in reference to another above mentioned bug, found muddy boots in same old place.

Quick saved and reloaded, xp bug seems to be doing it now. First time was because scarlette was alone, seems when she walks in it only triggers the one time, but keeps doing it for other characters that run in.

I'll prune all old save data manually, but I only have 1-2 saves, mostly just use quicksave.

Hmm ~ notes state explicitly that save states have been fixed; I'll start with a "vanilla" folder structure.

I deleted the save and cache files before the patch today, just in case.

• Minor healing potions don’t stack in Jahan’s inventory.
• The carpet at the house in x:50, y:130 requires some very particular placement about where you’re allowed to move it.
• The tombstone lid in the basement of said house is even more picky about where you are allowed to set it down.
• You repeatedly get exploration experience from the basement of the x:50, y:130 house.
• Snorri: If you offer to fight him, you get the victory dialogue immediately afterward. Without the fight actually happening.
• Nearing the lighthouse, Rod and Scarlett give the usual dialogue “the father we go, the more bodies we find…” and then Madora and Jahan repeat it. Also, this place also has the repeated exploration experience bug.

Funny, in v102, I complained about mostly empty containers/crates, but in v114 I've noticed an increased drop rate from containers, not a decreased one.




I suspect those are a bonus for Telekinesis users, although I have not tried that out myself yet.




Possibly a deliberate change. They were considered quest items (and unsellable), but I don't remember an associated quest.





Are you sure that they vanished? When they reach a certain point, and see the orc on the beach below, they're scripted to say essentially "screw that" and run back to the bridge. They never follow you to the beach fight.

If you are referring to the two crates and a barrel, you can teleport them over the rope. I did this as you can't peek in them like you could before.

As for lower loot rates, they have been down quite a bit since it went early access. I feel I had WAY more stuff prior to that build and it has gotten better, but still low. I'm just tired of every fourth or fifth barrel giving me a barrel lid. I know they are used to make shields but serious I don't need 20. Well ok I do since I sell them, but I'd rather see other things.

EDIT:

They stacked fine here. He had one so I sent him two from Madora and they stacked to 3.
Just tested having him loot one and it stacked.

EDIT AGAIN: Running to and from the lighthouse grants Exploration XP. Got it going in, leaving to talk to guards, again when I followed them back and again upon leaving.

New Bugs on 1.0.114:

- You can walkthrough giant shells on the start of the map
- Can't lift the boxes, barrows or open them on the docks where they are behind the ropes
- When trading with Elsmeralda the items doesn't show the full price properly, it will constantly go up by a few coins when trying to exchange
- The items still have random stats such as an plate armour has 8 armour and another one with 12 armour with the same description.
- The Scimitar sword doesn't require any skills which was required to get 3 one-handed skill. (Over Powered)
- The 2-handed sword (better version) now requires 10 strength to wield it should also acquire increasing the skills for the 2-handed sword.
- The constant exploration xp bug in Elsmeralda house, where you and your characters gain XP multiple of times by walking out and in. (This applies to the secret hide out and the room of the trap door).
- The two new recruits cant sit on benches ( Just read through the bugs section and it may seems only in some benches, the one I was outside of Elsmeralda House.

Serious bug: (Must be fixed soon)

- The door to the mess, chicken mission constant bug where my characters keep repeadily talking to each other increasing the compasionate manner by 1 over and over. This is also if your chose the heartless way, even if the chicken is dead they are still constantly talking to each other about the chicken.

Old bugs that still hasn't been fixed:

- The character still can overlay with the giant stone door.
- The pole on the captain ship on the docks, your character can still climb on it
- The Inventory system set still not working
(I havent go further yet to check some older bugs)

Will check some more later as I only headed to Elsmeralda house as that constant exploration XP bug is one of the major bugs on the game, right now. Now the biggest major bug is with the chicken mission!

Hope this helps a bit!



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You should be able to either teleport the crates over the rope or teleport someone across the rope to loot them. I was able to do both. Didn't try using telekinesis to move them however.

Yes just realised when reading the bugs thread, thanks.

Was able to buy this from Arhu using an exploit of putting something into sell window and then dragging this on top of it.


EDIT 1: Stardust Herb + Mortar and Pestle = Stardust (According to Mortar Madness Book) It displays as Pixie Dust. But to get Pixie Dust you are supposed to mix Stardust and Bone Dust, which works.

EDIT 2: Moving the pots in Roberts' place only moves the pot but the plants continue to float where the pot used to be.

Tomato awfully looks like apple. Or is it the contrary.
Great update Larian, it fixed many many issues, making the game much more enjoyable. Keep up the good work

Entered in a fight with Madora on my side (North Cyseal - First Woods)
Some zombie goats, one undead archer and an undead mage. I should have died with the last arrow but resurrected automatically and died with the next arrow, ten times. Finally, the archer missed me.
Then, the character could damage ennemies but ennemies acted like they hit me but didn't do damages.

Sorry for my poor English, I could explain it in French if you prefer.

If I am interpreting this correctly I think you may have had the same problem I did when trading with Arhu. He kept saying my offer was insulting even though the values on both sides of the trading screen were evenly matched and his attitude was completely neutral. The price going up is actually due to the NPC's attitude slowly dropping. Something is wrong here, I am pretty sure NPCs are supposed to automatically accept your proposal if you give them as much as or more than what they're asking for.

The game crashes during the fight with Evelyn and her escort in her lair. Usualy when my character is about to hit a target. Also savegames made during the fight can not be loaded and crash the game.
EDIT: It also crashes when fighing Orcs at the very north part of the map at the beach. Few turns are fine, then when my character (usualy a melee one) is about to hit the enemy, the game crashes.

Hi, here are some bugs (and sorry for my english):

-Mage robes are invisible, you only see the underwear of the character who wear them.
-Scarlett has some difficulties to wear hat and helmet cause of his haircut.
-Seem that you can have some exploration xp reward twice.
-NPC will keep saying that an offer is insulting if you try to buy some items from them.

I've just picked up Evelyn's pouch which should contain the key to her house and I cant seem to open it and my lockpicking skill isn't high enough so I'm effectively stuck.

edit: I managed to open it only after putting it in a skill slot. The game should allow to open it from the inventory or just not pick up the bag in the first place.

I had the same issue in a fight, but with my only two base chars. Scarlett rezzed a lot of time Under undead archer fire, and then she became unkillable. Maube she became unkillable when I entered another fight, while the first one was not over yet.

- Arhu can appear both in human and cat form at the same time in his quarters. Not Game-Breaking.

- Tactical retreat enables players to jump through walls and get to otherwise unreachable areas (i.e. Evelyn's house, we managed to solve Jake's murder without going through any of the regular steps by abusing Tactical Retreat). Game-Breaking.

- Reputation malus is not applied properly. We murdered half of the Legionnaires in Cyseal, including Aureus and only recieved a -3 on our reputation for killing the first guards. Not Game-Breaking.

- Succeeding a resistance roll when getting hit with an elemental ability when you are already affected by one results in cleansing the character from negative states. Not Game-Breaking.

- Some elemental damage skills do not trigger the Talking statues even if they should apply the correct elemental effects. Not Game Breaking.

- Dietmar challenges players to a fight when met but never actually triggers the fight sequence. Not Game Breaking.

- Various texture ground holes in Evelyn's hideout resulting in the character falling into a void zone. Not Game-Breaking, but fairly annoying.

- Unconsistencies with auto-rez DURING combat. We could have been able to kill Arhu using the bug, since he always killed Jahan and Jahan would resurrect automatically right afterwards. Potentially Game-Breaking.

- Arhu has behavior issues in combat and will force end turn every turn after using blitz bolt. Potentially Game-Breaking.

- Companions do not seem to trigger most of the special places exploration markers, but still get the group XP for it, resulting in infinite XP loops in various places, including those already mentioned as well as others (Lighthouse, Broken Way Gate, Arhu's failed experiment cave, Talking Statues). More detailed information should be posted by my co-op partner later on. Extremely Game-Breaking.

[Edited: added bugs]

I assume you mean at the same time?

Yes indeed. Edited post and added some other issues.

I moved some furniture around in the healer's house (Theolryn, something like that), and he called the guards on me. My characters couldn't move, but the guards initiated the conversation that landed me in jail. I made the deal with devil to get out of jail, and then proceeded to the mess hall where I tried to take a tomb. The chef saw me and called the guards, and I was frozen again. But this time, when the guards ran in, they did not initiate a conversation. So, we were all just left standing there. I couldn't move or click on anything or anyone. Had to re-load the game.

[Note - deleted save directory, so no possibility of prior "contamination"]

Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Dagger + branch = spear; still doesn't consume the dagger. Possible to craft multiple spears all worth a lot for trading.

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Bug - Mechanics

Priority - High

Getting Councilman Cecil to go up the stairs, no trigger of conversation when following him, making the NPC unresponsive (and quests unfulfillable). Charlene becomes unresponsive (speech bubble is present).

Possible cause - no idea, did get caught stealing by Charlene once before she went back upstairs. Entered, went up stairs, recruited Jahan, went downstairs. Spoke to Cecil, chose option 3, "show library" before any other options, then entered back room & trigger XP reward (+loot), which triggered twice, triggered Charlene thief response one time (she then went back upstairs). Charlene is recoverable by speaking to her with Jahan ("minion!" response), however Cecil remains stuck in limbo. Doesn't respond to theft (Victoria does); not fixed by reloading.

Possible cause - Charlene post-theft auto-dialogue went back upstairs. Broke trigger? (A la rats?)

-Restart required.

Okay, I more or less finished the Alpha with the current build. Additional observations:

- As mentioned, nothing happens if you ask Arhu to tell you about himself.
- If you initiate conversation with Scarlett as Roderick or vice versa, the other character will sometimes be selected after the dialogue ends.
- The game crashed as I was fighting two dogs outside of Cyseal. My party also randomly exited and re-entered combat during this fight.
- Roderick had 251/208 Vitality at one point, not sure if this should be possible.
- In the fight with the skeletons and the mage in the ruins immediately north-northwest of Cyseal, one of the skeleton archers shot the poison barrel next to him on his first turn even though we were approaching from the opposite direction. A poor tactic, as several skeletons were poisoned by this and we were unscathed.
- If you Phoenix Dive to inaccessible locations, the enemies near the location will receive damage, but you will still be standing in the same spot.
- It is a bit hard to use melee attacks on enemies stuck in ice crystals, some sort of auto-targeting option would be useful.
- In the cave with the Sparkmaster, you can hear the sound of water splashing as you walk through it, even though there is no water in sight.
- Fear is a bit overpowered in the sense that it lasts quite some time, and undead creatures should probably be immune to it.
- All Watcher statues are healed by fire and I'm not sure why. It makes sense for the fire statue, but why is it also the case for the other ones?
- The fleeing chest says 'hihihihi' at one point, I don't think this is commonly used as an onomatopoeia in English.
- The Waypoint Shrine at the northern beach doesn't seem to work.
- Evelyn's Lair: the conversation with the first group of Black Cultists gets triggered as the fight is already going on. It also led to a glitch once; Jahan was walking up the stairs (during combat, as said) when the dialogue with the cultists was triggered, and he kept walking during the conversation until he somehow ended up on what I assume to be a different level of the map:


As you can see from the combat bar at the top, he also triggered combat with the second group of cultists on his way to the different dimension. He was stuck when his turn came up and I had to reload.
- You can still only equip one ring at a time even though there are two slots available.
- There is a Black Cultist called 'Citizen', I'm assuming this is a mistake.
- I would say that 'Smelly Panty', 'Smelly Scarf' etc. implies that the suspects have poor personal hygiene. This is funny but probably not the intention. Perhaps something like Evelyn's Scarf would be better.
- Every companion triggers the flavor comments separately. For example, all four of them will exclaim 'those footsteps are enormous'. I think this is related to the infinite XP bug, it seems that individual characters trigger certain events separately and sometimes repeatedly.
- One of the flavor comments in the Black Cove reads 'carefull, dead orc'. That should be 'careful'.
- The description of Sidewinder is somewhat misleading since as far as I can tell it completely negates the flanking penalty and does not merely decrease it.
- During the skeleton/orc fight in the Black Cove, my sound effects disappeared for no apparent reason.
- If you move your cursor over the knocked down icon next to the character portait, the text reads 'Character is knocked down on his backside' even when said character is female.
- I might be missing something, but the Indestructible ability doesn't show up in the list of modifiers for your Armor Rating.
- Finally, major bug when I exited the Black Cove. I ended up in the Character Creation room with the fireplace, where I could walk around freely in and outside of the half-finished building. The map also had a sped-up day/night cycle (looks good). I am assuming this is not meant for our eyes. I only managed to get out of there by slipping a Teleporter Pyramid to Jahan/Madora, who had correctly re-entered the overworld map.

I had the Snorri thing happen in a previous build. I wasn't really reading what was said but on a later play through I saw it said that we challenged him to an arm wrestling contest and lost. Then we had to fight. Does your quest say the same or is it possible to win the arm wrestling and negate having to fight?

I think the "Smelly" tag is meant as a HINT on what to do with the items.

Bugs:

1: Infinite exp while walking with companions into hidden rooms (some give 17300 or so exp, so getting lvl 40++ takes around 5-6min), works for both companions.

2: Perks are not given to both main characters if one of protagonists was too far away when the conversation was innitiated.

3. Locked doors can still be broken with any weapon or spell. In case guards are watching, they can be "moved" to a different location with a teleport spell.

4. Crafting lvl 5 needs improvement as weapons have only 2 choices for each material (iron/steel) and quality of items is below average comparing to items available at a vendor.
Overall luck stat has also no affect on crafting.
Some of the recipies do not work as well .. crafting "bar" goes through but no item is generated.

5. Two handed weapons are significantly weaker than any one handed wep. Damage difference is minimal ... i.e. two handed sword would have only 5-10% more dmg BUT
- 4 ap to use instead of 2-3ap for single hand
- no shield
and animation for two handed axe is bugged, main hero is holding it by the blade (not the handle).

6. Warrior skill +50%, -25% accuracy, +2ap for abilities use is USELESS!
Warrior skills are high cost as is, and -25% accuracy does not get mitigated by anything (not gladiator, not 15str, not 5 in weapon skill), so with this skill active your warrior would do what .. 1, maybe 2 hits while without this skill, he would do 3-5

7. Intelligence needs a nerf. When int is 15 nearly every skill cost 1 ap.

8. Skill phoenix dive is doing fire based damage but that damage is not affected by fire mastery. Meaning if you have fire 5, you will do same damage with phoenix dive as if you had fire 0.

9. Crabs in the cove are still not attacking anything.

10. Armor raiting needs to be adjusted ... it caps at 95 but the efficiency of it seems to be non-linear. Until you get about 40+armor, its only a little better than being naked. However, if you are at 60/70+ mobs can't do much at all.

11. Melee vs Caster again ...
Caster needs 15int, 15endurance and everything else into speed.
2 stats caped will make you a caster with ~4.5k hp, 1ap for nearly every spell, and 25+ap

Melee needs to have 3 stats capped (str, in addition to int/end) to "catch up".

In other words, casters would rock much, much earlier (tens of levels) than any melee.

Hmm, edited out the Snorri thing since it's quite possible that I simply wasn't paying enough attention.

I know the Smelly thing is meant as a hint, but I would say it implies that the objects smell bad. Perhaps a different adjective would be more appropriate?

Bug - Content / Mechanics

Priority - Low

There was a low (125xp) exploration reward just (north) east of the ruined hut, south of the barracks / training field. It no longer triggers.

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Refutation of bug

Priority - Low

A user reported that trading with the mortician caused a game crash / bug. I cannot duplicate this; he simply has no inventory.

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Bug - Mechanics

Priority - Low

Unsure if this is to do with the mortician, however tool tips on items whilst trading ceased to work for me after trading with him. Tooltips in inventory worked fine.

[Edit - this is fixed on a reload, so might be to do with the mortician]

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Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Arnu in cat form has a ! weapon in her inventory that does incredible damage. Currently saving up gold to see if it's tradable. (I suspect it won't be, but it shouldn't be in his inventory - I know why it is, which points to cats not having equipment dolls!)

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Bug - Content

Priority - Low

Jack the chickens' broken behaviour has been reported (+7 bonus) - however, if you 'farm' this bonus while staying in the kitchen, and then opt to kill him, the cook will run off to murder him. Jack was in the barracks when I triggered this (I suspect Jack was heading for the nearest exit, i.e. the barrack's stairs) - leading to being able to mass loot and so on.

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Bug - Mechanics

Priority - Low / Medium

Once you have 'ported a chest a single time, you cannot port it again. Tested on the chest found in the centre of the market square. Not sure if this applies to other items flagged criminal, will test further.

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Bug - Mechanics

Priority - Low

Char has Bold:3 / Timid:1 and is using a +1 to sneak item, with 0 in the base stat: only gets Sneaking skill:1, listed as from gear. Conclusion - timid isn't adding +1 correctly.

Maali's co-op partner here.



I simply jumped in Evelyn's house, then I jumped down the cliff from the nothern burial mound to the pink tree, then onto the beach, used reveal spell, killed Evelyn, solved Jake's murder o/ Nice for some speed-running videos, not as nice when doing a regular game.



Confirmed at least for fire arrows as far as I'm concerned.



This is the big one.
Let me illustrate it in video :


( This video has been posted as "unlisted", meaning it can't be found by regular search or browsing my channel. Only you here on this forum should have the link. )

It indeed seems like the companions can trigger the exploration XP gain but aren't receiving any flags for that, resulting in them being able to infinitely trigger the XP gain event.
Probably not very hard to correct, but that's the single biggest bug we found in this build so far.
In combination with the smoke-jump described earlier, "finishing" the main quest can be done in a few minutes by avoiding all quest dialogues and the whole investigation while still clearly being over-leveled for the content.

This seems to be happening everywhere you gain exploration XP save for the Way Gates discoveries. We confirmed it so far for :
- The Lighthouse ( where this video was mainly captured )
- The non-working way gate in the beach near Evelyn's lab secret entrance ( last part of the video )
- The 4 talking statues
- Arhu's Experiment cave entrance

Various feedbacks :

- Jahan feels more balanced. His healing now may be a bit too powerful though. But only a BIT.

- Resurrect skillbook requires Way of the Ranger ranks. I would have expected Sourcery ranks.

- Bows, crossbows, Survivor :
* The Marksman Stance ( +50% precision, -25%damage, +2AP to cost of skill ) is downright useless, I can see no reason to ever use it. You hit ok from a distance anyway with the eagle eyes trait, and ennemies tend to move toward you, reducing the distance. 50% ranged precision is not worth the damage redution and AP bonus cost. The previous iteration ( 1 reserved AP per turn instead of +2ap cost ) was a tad more balanced while still not super-useful.
Maybe make it a next-attack buff only with no damage and AP penalty, costing 1 or 2 ap, simply enhancing the precision of your next attack ?

* Standards attacks cost maybe too much AP. With a few points in Intelligence, a special arrow will deal more damage and cost less AP to use. This is especially true with crossbows, where one fire arrow can cost down to half AP a standard attack does.
My guess would be that Larian wants archers to use special arrows ( making the rank 5 of Way of the Ranger very useful ), but it doesn't come out as very intuitive. Maybe make special arrows a bit more powerful and costly to use ?

* Way of the ranger rank 4 ( -1 ap to standard attacks ) doesn't seem to be reflected upon the ranged weapons tooltips, while INT influence appears on the skill tooltips.

- Stats :
* They feel quite balanced now, with maybe a little bias toward intelligence. A caster could only need int, the rest being bonus, while a melee or archer would want at least strength or dexterity AND intelligence.
I guess this is countered by the fact most "correct" spells have cooldowns, leaving the mage with not really much to do between CDs except casting one of those base, low-damage spells. So he would have to learn to use an actual weapon to really shine.

* Any chance to get a preview of how a stat gain is going to influence other stats ? Like how putting a point in intelligence could show us the reduction in AP cost for our skills ( if any ) before we confirm ? With every stats now being quite useful, it would help knowing how they are actually going to change our character.

- crafting : crafting items does not seem very useful unless you dish a lot of points in the ability. Every items you will find will be of a better quality than what you can craft. What's more you'd need to get some very specific ingredients to craft a very specific weapon. I never found a second sinew to try and craft a bow, but I found some very good crossbows by defeating foes.
Maybe give a little boost to what you can do with the Crafting skill or give the option to salvage items, or even a visual / UI hint as to what "level" of item you can craft with your actual / next rank of Crafting ?

Oh lord infinite exp bug is terrible, for now i'll stop exploring. :P

Also there's something in eglandaer's room, I was there before meeting him (crushing the door to steal some things) and when he returns to that room my characters are stuck outside.

Even though there's no door anymore ('cause I destroyed it) I cannot pass and go to him.

I think Sourcery is a special plot-activated skill that can't actually be used until a certain point in the main quest (past the end of alpha content).



I agree, Precision Stance is worthless. You're basically never far enough away that your chance to hit is low enough to be worth lowering your damage to boost it.

You could copy the Warrior's Power Stance and have increased damage with reduced chance to hit, but well, that would be copying the Warrior.

If you want a bow-focused stance, what might be interesting is replacing it with a "Double Shot" Stance that has a higher AP cost and a higher chance to miss, but shoots twice.

The same thing happened to me in the lighthouse. As far as I can tell the debris of a destroyed door can block your path, but only if you first go to a different area and come back later. I tried it with the door in the warehouse and it happened:



Obviously a pretty serious bug.

I'm also finding that (quick)loading can mess with NPC patrol routines. Specifically, they often just seem to stop moving at all. That's how I was able to destroy the door in the warehouse without the guards noticing. Clearly this is highly exploitable, as you can quicksave at the right moment to make stealing even easier.

Finally, here's a screenshot of my two main characters after they were teleported to the Character Creation screen when they exited the Black Cove.



This is reproducible and I'm surprised I'm the only one to report it so far. That's not supposed to happen, is it? Note how it's night, by the way.

It's possible through an exploit which I explain how to do in an earlier post. The damage is crazy and it's one handed so I use it with a shield on Madora. One hit kills.

Seconded on the Black Cove thing. I got teleported there when I was playing in the previous version. Only my main characters got teleported, while my henchmen were left outside.

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Bug - Mechanics

Priority - Medium

Is assassin working? There isn't a "backstab" skill, so unsure how to get it to work. [Working on a fighter build with assassin / teleport abuse]

This happened to me also (in a coop game, if that matters). We were able to get infinite exploration XP by walking back and forth between areas in the vast majority of places you get exploration XP.

When I play DOS in coop mode, sometimes when I speak with some NPC, the dialog window appears black and I can do nothing to close it. The only thing is to leave the party and join in again.

Here are some of the bugs I've encountered:
1. The cook and the chicken encounter repeats itself again if you try to talk to the cook after allowing the chicken to run away.

2. Arhu can be seen in his future cat form:


3. Weird weapon handling and strapping on back:



4. Arhu is selling something weird with exclamation sign:


5. Hall of Heroes has buggy minimap, also journal button is buggy:


6. Headgear (bonnet) doesn't hide the hair:


7. Flowers did not move with the pot:


8. Portraits during dialogues are dissapearing:


Suggestions:
1. Fraps shows that the game has 30 fps cap. Please, if possible, make it at least 60 - the game will run much smoother and probably faster animation wise.
2. Skills icons for various similar skills like Rush and Battering Ram, or Inspire and encourage have the same icons. It's difficult to distinguish them, some alterations are needed. Different colours maybe?

Did you try hitting '1', or another number key?

I've encountered that as well. Quickloading at the harbor garrison seems to be stopping the AI routines - the guards started to just stand in one spot.

I believe this is normal, the dialogue about his cat form sounded legit. Probably even a little foreshadowing since he mentions a witch could lock him in this form...



Well my fraps clearly showed 60 when I was frapsing my earlier video, and 120 when I was playing. Are you sure you did not lock your framerate while using fraps or something ?

Is it? I talked to him again later and he was in human form. Definetly something weird. I think his cat transformation should happen later in the game, not at the beginning out of the blue.


I've figured it out - it's ingame's V-sync option that caps it. Why cap at 30 is beyond me though.

- The Ice Shard spell doesn’t seem to pierce, despite its 100% pierce chance.

- Picking up owned items in Esmerelda’s shop prompts the “oh so you want to buy this” dialogue, but the item is not added to her inventory so you can’t actually buy it.

- If you do that and cancel out of the trade, Esmerelda’s dialogue is set to that of a generic citizen, even when asking about Jake’s murder. Ending the conversation and talking to her again gives her her normal dialogue, though.

Yes, but didn't happen nothing.

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EDIT: As for Arhu turning into a cat it is listed in the patch notes that he will randomly change into a cat.

Not sure if it's a bug or lack of barter skill, but I can't seem to balance the trade with some vendors - the inital balance is set, but when I click on trade button I get the message that the offer insults them and they raise their side by a few coins. And it continues indefinetly - they alays raise their side.

This happens randomly to people. But if they raise the price that means their opinion of you is lowered. To offset this you need to give more than is requested for item.

Interesting, it is random indeed. Sometimes they accept the inital price, sometimes not. Too bad that there is no indicator as to how high they want the raise to be, would have been more easier if the balance button autoraised the player side to the sum that vendors would find acceptable.

I've had it go up by about 500 to 1000. I had saved after first fail and kept adding money till it took. I eventually killed all of the NPCs with the exception of two guards who didn't take damage and Arhu and got my money back.

Right, if they tell you your offer is insulting for no reason you need to give them a LOT more than what they're supposedly asking before they will accept the trade. It also seems to be random who this happens with, I've seen people report this bug occurring with several different NPCs. Not sure what the cause is.

Imagine that you're in a room with some NPCs with higher lvl than your characters, but you want to kill them anyway. The way to do it without any scratch is quite easy. Build a barricade made of boxes/crates/tables/chairs, so there's no way through it and initiate a fight (throw a box on them).

Since NPCs don't know, that most of these objects are destructible, they'll just stand in a fight position and won't do anything. So the last step is killing NPCs with some ranged weapons/spells.

Let's give these poor inhabitants of this cruel world some intelligence and possibilities how to manipulate with enviroment.

This has been reported in previous builds. I have a video in one of the bug report threads showing this and that if you run far enough to the right then you will be returned to Cyseal start. Thanks for the update that it's still an issue.


Explained a way to acquire this in earlier post.


Also seen and reported in earlier post. Thanks for the screenshot though.

EDIT: It would appear that the infinite Exploration XP and the bugged dialogue at the cook's are due to the change in coding for the companions. In the previous build (the following is speculation but fits with what has happened) they were coded as part of the game, thus enabling them to travel over the alpha line. The 2 mains were coded differently and that is why certain triggers activated and why they were returned to the beginning of Cyseal if they crossed the alpha line. Now companions have a similar coding as the player created characters. They are triggering things like players, yet not being flagged as having triggered it. Hence why crossing the lines for exploration trigger when companions cross and why the cook's dialogue keeps triggering.

The "offer is insulting" is a bug as one of the item is 480 and they keep refusing, when I load the game, the item is now at 780 (same stats, description) and they accept it. Its a strange bug that causes the item to not show their full price.

I left clicked in the middle of Esmerelda's shop to walk there from the eastern edge of town and my characters walked right through 2 of Esmerelda's locked doors instead of entering in the front. The doors remained locked afterward.

Yeah this is caused by the door not rendering at a distance and so it seems as if the way is open. Also your lead character will run the straightest way there, running through solid objects. If you take your party upstairs (or downstairs) at the Inn or the Mayor's then you will be able to free your stuck character.

A few random bugs that I found while playing:

- During the fight with Evenlyn, a cultist cast charm on an already charmed Roderick. He resisted and became uncharmed.

- I quicksaved (which I will add I'm not fond of as feature) in the middle of a battle with Evelyn which resulted in a now corrupt save.

- When I die nothing happens. My characters are laying on the floor like it's possible for them to get up, but I don't think it is!

- Bouncing fire (I forget the actual name of the spell) does not highlight who the fire will "bounce" to. Effectively it's an AoE spell with an undefined area.

Sadly, the issue with follower "detaching" himself is not corrected. Every time I load a game or invite my friend jahan (or madora as well) starts to follow me and not him. So we have to fire him and re-hire at the homestead.
Moving his portrait has no effect at all, the chain won't link him to the player that is not the host.

The book Metalurgy made Easy is misspelled, it should be Metallurgy (It is spelled correctly inside the book). In the same book it says "To man an Iron Bar". It should be To Make an Iron Bar.

Two "obvious" bugs I encountered:
- sometimes in the bench just after Cyseal entry, if you stand-up after having sit on it, you can not move anymore the character because he/she stand-up between the bench and the wall. You can fix this situation by moving the bench though

- in the same area in the story, I talked with the citizens just after the gate near the crates, then with the other one who is owning the "Nine inch nails", and this second time the camera zoomed incorrectly on the first citizens each time I tried to talk to him

- during the Orc Battle on the beach at the beginning of the game before Cyseal, some guards popped up from/outside view in the middle of the screen, even if they were clearly in the same area.

And it might be great to have an option not to zoom in during dialogs. The "problem" now is that the camera zoom change for each character who talk. I agree that it's not a bug, but I'm not sure that it's better that the previous situation. I had personally no problems to identify with whom I was talking to

In the library just at the top of the stairs, I was trying to click on the book shelf and somehow ended up clicking on the stool in front of it. Now Scarlet in stuck setting on it. She won't move, and I can not use anything in my inventory or teleport . I even tried starting a fight but she just sets there.

Take your party downstairs. She should be forced to follow.

Finished almost all of the remaining content today. Issues I noticed:

- The Billeh Ghar conversation triggers over and over if you run around in his room, no matter which character(s) you're controlling.
- A floating message 'Trophy Unlocked' appeared when I quickloaded in the Black Cove. I looked at the Trophy Screen and there was nothing there.
- It was impossible for me to
- The crabs in the Black Cove don't fight back.
- You can use AOE spells to highlight hidden landmines:

I'm actually fine with this since I'd get blown to bits otherwise, but I'm not sure it's intentional.
- My game crashed as I was landing the finishing (melee) blow on Pontius Pirate.
- During my second attempt, I decided to provoke combat with the ghost pirates before the conversation with Pontius triggered. The game treats them as neutrals and it just slightly lowered their attitude. Eventually, most of them turned into zombies, combat finally got triggered, and then this happened:

Yes, Lily the ghost pirate is fighting on my side.
- There is an exclamation mark above Madora's head after sending Desdemona to the lighthouse, but I cannot talk to her. First time I ran into this problem in this build.
- When Sam goes to see Maxine after you've solved his quest, she tells him 'you are tom of means after all'. That should be a 'a tom of means'.
- Sam's collar is still in your inventory after you solve his quest.
- Example of current item values being out of whack: a huge diamond that I picked up in the Black Cove is worth less than five times more than a fish.

Don't work I even killed her and when she came back to life she won't move.

Can you screenshot it and put it up under spoiler tags, so as to not make the post unnecessarily long. I will try to replicate this using the picture and see if I can find a way out of it.

Another small bug, during the first Orc fight before Cyseal. I used a spell on an Orc to make it fight for me, he dies before the spell effect vanished, and then the spell "icon" was forever floating above his corpse.

The other members of my group are all down stairs.

I was able to duplicate this by sitting down and then trying to take something from the book shelf and being seen by Charlene. I was then stuck just as you said. I'm assuming there was some dialogue between Scarlett and Charlene as the camera focused on Charlene. For a while I was stuck with my view on Charlene. I was able to fix camera issue by talking to Victoria. I killed Charlene in hopes that would free me, nope. I used the homestead button but upon asking to make a choice with Scarlett by ZixZaxx the game crashed. I was able to enter Black Cove and she was rejoined with the party.

Bought a copy for me and my buddy last night, played up until you get teleported/transported to that other "realm"(?) because the level becomes invisible. You only see a faint outline of some lighting and the rest looks like a star map. It's probably for the sky background but right now it looks as if I'm floating in space. Reloading doesn't seem to help either.

We are on the same network, he's on a suffice laptop and I'm on a beefy gaming rig(game looks great with everything max!).

And you both have the same problem?

Click and hold the mouse button down to direct your character, and you should be able to find your way to the observatory waypoint (straight north east of where you start in the homestead) and then the exit waypoint (again, straight north east). If the map / mini-map are ok, that should give you an idea of where to go.

Can you see the waypoints? A couple other people have run into this problem at the homestead, but were able to get out, so you should at least get a highlight of the waypoint when you mouse over one.


Please email supportdos@larian.com, with a description of the problem and the report.zip file generated by the D:OS support tool, for both systems.

Update: I came back to the lighthouse hours later to finish the Desdemona quest, and this time I was able to get in and out through the doorway without any problems. So it seems that this is a problem that occurs shortly, but not immediately after you destroy a door, and it goes away after some time for mysterious reasons.

Yes, it seems that if you successfully make your saving throw against something that you already had a status effect of, the status effect will be canceled. Major combat bug. This is also why Hail Attack will result in an enemy being frozen much less often than you might think, because it's only the final projectile that matters.



Pretty sure this is WAD to introduce an element of randomness and risk. But yes, perhaps a good compromise would be to highlight the characters that the fire could possibly leap to. Only problem is that I don't know how you would make it clear that this is a mostly hypothetical AOE, I think players would get confused.

I also forgot the name of the spell even though I used it constantly in my latest playthrough...

So my little list of bugs in this version :

-After being attacked by the 3 guys on the beach that are supposed to drop the staff of Perrgamon and killing them the staff did not drop.

-Even though I have the sheep corpse I can not do anything else when I talk to the sheep owner and she reacts as she would if I hadn't discovered the corpse yet.

-I've used the remote control to self destruct the ahru sparkmaster 5000 but my journal isn't updated and still says that I have to take care of it.

-At one point I had the human and the cat ahru in the same room at the same time. The cat didn't have anything to sell though.

-once I entered the butcher shop with the chicken inside the dialogue started each time a character came in (since I had the 2 companions it started 4 times) and 2 times once I came out. So I ended up with 6 points in compassion.

and a last point. I found the infectious flame to be quite over powered as it sometimes dealt as much as 4x49 damage and one shoted several ennemies.

For the Arhu Failed Experiment you may need to

EDIT: Pixie Dust + Paper = ??? Shows animation but nothing happens
Magic Needle and Thread + Leather Scraps = ??? Shows animation but nothing happens (assuming it makes magic based Leather Armor)

It would appear that the pressure switch that starts the Another Crazed Mage does nothing apart from triggering Billeh Gahr. Stepping off doesn't trigger the explosion. The hidden button under the rug cannot be interacted with.
The pressure plate triggers the conversation with Billeh Gahr every time it is stepped on.

Another two small ones:

- When entering dialogs, the tooltips for object names pop on top of the dialog box

- And you can sit on a stool with already someone on it without any problem it seems. I made Roderick sit on the stool with the chicken on the market place in Cyseal

- The second ship that was lost in the attack on the harbour is moss-covered, like the wrecks. Since it was in use, it should not look like a wreck abandoned for years.

- If you have the inventory window open, your Movement is not updated if you switch between Sneak and normal modes.

Found an exploit with the four demons:

- I triggered the Earth one by a Poison Dart scroll on the platform, but the one who shot it was so far away that combat didn’t start. I had to move closer first. I might have been able to summon all four from far away and watched them kill each other, then picked up the loot after killing the weakened survivor.

EDIT: Nevermind, I tried this, and with three demons out, they just stood there. No one tried attacking each other until I was in range for combat.

- Nice to see the prison economy working so well. The guards are letting Esmerelda run her shop from jail!

- Enemy healing spells are still the old, weak versions the players had in v102.

- All polearms/spears have the “Staff” model.

- When you ignite a poison surface with fire, you can get green clouds that look odd, but do not actually do anything (I think), even though they persist after combat ends.

- Poison surface left by certain enemies when the die doesn’t go away on its own after combat ends.

- I managed to destroy a table... but all the things on it stayed floating in midair.