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In my cooperative game, me and my friend got Pholus at level 1 and by level 13 he was at bartering 7 and charisma 5 with items. We just noticed he wasn't leveling with us when we got to level 16, usually we would look at all the shops and plan a route with him to buy everything we wanted.

The only real problem we saw was that he doesn't force a new inventory to be generated for vendors.
Which is easily solved by talking to the vendors yourself and then using him.

To be frank, i think this bug:

Made using higher leveled henchmen pointless. Why use them when you can get a level 1 and tailor everything to your needs? Do note that if automatic level up for henchman wasn't planned, then indeed it was a bug and i'd prefer that Larian solved the bugs to make the game like they envisioned. However i would like the hireable henchmen to have more diverse dialogue (no need for personal quests, just more diverse dialogue).

Made the game way easier than it is, because without this bug you would be forced to decide if you wanted to have crafting, blacksmithing, bartering, lockpicking and pickpocketing, thus making your character more than something that only knows how to kill and accompanied by mindless slav... i mean hechmen.

Finally, maybe not everything in the game is/was supposed to be played 'as we see fit':

Maybe we HAVE TO sneak past death knights and collapse a mine unto them
Maybe we HAVE TO have a tenebrium weapon to break the big blood stone
Maybe you HAVE TO let Thelyron die even though you can have an unused blood stone with you that you could use to save him.
Maybe we HAVE TO make some important choices regarding our henchmen.

I'm sure other people can say that there are lots of things in the game that can be done only one way and lots of things that can be done in multiple ways or bypassed. Now that i've ranted, i think i like the change, since it will make my next playthrough harder, which is always good.

Well, now ALL henchmen are pointless.

Enjoy.

News: So b.e. there are a lot of citizens in Cyseal now, who have no dialogues, if you talk to them. I think, this bug is after an update, because as we started the game, weeks ago, every citizen had his dialogues, if you talked to them.

Not really. Now all henchmen are pointless TO YOU.

sounds like you are not putting enough points into your primary stats. If you are summoning stuff just for the flanking bonus, I'm guessing your strength on your warrior is too low for their level, likewise dex for your archer.

respec your stats in the appropriate room at the end of time.

or, use precision stances to improve your hit chance.

use souls on your weapons; they boost both strength and dex.

focus on armor and items that boost those stats, as you can put resists on nearly anything.

seriously, I play the same setup you do, and my archer and warrior kill just as many things as my two mages do, and have since about level 12 (now level 20).

I found this game to have very little challenge past Cyseal. the enemies are not strong enough or numerous enough to overcome the poor ai.

I never tried it, but can you respec henchfolk like you can respec your mains?

Patchlog.txt:

Incorrect version of: C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG Games\Divinity - Original Sin\LanguageSetup.exe

Will there always be something not working correctly in GOG patches?

Have you changed the early undead encounters as well? I ran unto a group of level 3's that I was very sure about being level 4 before this latest patch.

Exactly!

You can't buy the level 10 merc that they have for sale and actually enjoy it. It's built completely wrong. Plus what if you're playing with 4 people and they want to build their character from the ground up, they used to be able to..

What if you want to hire a merc at later levels to try out one of these so called options.. then realize it's crap.. guess you really have to use madora and jahan, but now they are a level or two behind you. Greaaaaaat.

Having them catch up to you is the only way for it to work in a game like this with no mob respawn. It needs to be fixed back.

I have a serious problem after Update V1.0.107. Any Skull + Mortar & Pestle give me nothing instead of Bone Dust.

Another problem with skulls - I can't throw them to earth from inventory (at the same time, option "drop" works correctly)

I hope, developers will correct this bug as soon as possible.

Good a patch showed up. Now... how to use it? I cannot find a link anywhere or an "auto update" from within the game. I have the gog-version and it still runs 1.0.37, which I think is a bit outdated...

For the GOG version you need to manually download the patches from your shelf and apply them yourself. I'm not sure if you have to apply them all or if there is a mega patch from one version to the latest (my copy is on Steam, I haven't yet redeemed the other)

On GOG there's a single patch from at least version 1.0.74 to 1.0.107.
So if you're running 1.0.37, I fear you need to download the complete game again.

Thanks for the answer, I'll just get to do it.

In all honesty, Larian: What? The? Fuck? I got the release version, there was no notification at all anywhere, and now I have to re-download it all?

GOG has updated the main installer a couple times. Unfortunately, they also removed the older patches from the download list for D:OS in 'My Games'. You will either need to re-download the latest full installer, or search online for the older patches (see here for a list of file names and checksum values). You could try contacting GOG support, and see if the older patches are still available, but just unlisted.

I don't think Icara should be selectable for teleportation skills... Now I can transfer her to lava and she unfreezes but without dialog.

Please change it back to the way it was. Why would a I want to hire a pre-made henchman with a TERRIBLE build? Let people play the game the way they want to and stop trying to pigeonhole the people playing your game.

I miss the last portal in The end of time. I've used a bloodstone but the portal has not opened (until now it was a portal for every bloodstone i've used). Is it a bug of this last patch or is it normal

You don't need re-spawning when you start from the beginning...;)

So, OK, when you--at lvl 10, say--go to the hall of heroes and buy a Lvl 1, character...he'll most likely lvl up to lvl 10 before you hit lvl 12 or lvl13, because it takes a lot fewer points to level up from 1 to 2 than from 9 to 10, etc.

But...since you are no longer in the beginning of the game...and, yes, the game doesn't have you repeatedly killing everything you have killed before--over and over again just to mindlessly rack up experience points--you will be fighting very tough foes from whom your characters will receive *many* experience points when they win the battles--and in the process your LvL 1 character will get lvl 10 *much faster* than he would if you did the tedious respawning thing. BUT...the catch is, of course, you have to keep him *alive* in order to level him up quickly. That is more difficult to do than the respawning thing, by design. Mercenaries are meant to be *bought* and brought on board--this is *not* "character creation* as happens only once in the game--when you begin the game! So...buying the mercenaries as they are is done exactly right--the "Character Creation* aspect to that was evidently the bug--which has now been fixed. Buying Mercenaries is not to be confused with character creation...Lol...;) Entirely different thing.

You can also build XP from competing Quests--many of the quests you complete in this game give you 2x-3x the XP even tough fights will give you--so if you pick up a character later on from the HoH who didn't complete any of the 4500XP quests (for example) with your party, where's the in-game justification for simply giving those points to the Mercenary...? If you don't like the lvl 10 mercenary character builds, then what that tells me is to be more careful with building up my original party characters so as to be able to get the kinds of party members I want.

Just because a game has different rules than those you think it *should have* is certainly no reason to call it "broken"...Lol,,,:D Just learn how to play it according to its *rules* and I guarantee you'll get a lot more from it.

I understand your frustration--you were exploiting a bug that has now been fixed and you don't like not being able to do that anymore. That's entirely understandable. But...I think it is wrong headed. The Hall of Heroes is not meant to help a player correct the wrong character development decisions he's made--it's for buying *pre-configured mercenaries* just as you would buy them in real life. If you want to wholly correct poor character-development decisions in the game--that's what the New Game button is for, imo. Heck, I've already started over three times and I am considering a forth...;)

It's part of the fun for me--sorry you can't see it because it isn't nearly as bad as you think--you just have to adjust your thinking a bit, that's all.

I like "long games" and always have...I'm not insulted if if Make a few wrong decisions and the game penalizes me for it--heck, I *expect* a game to do that and believe that any game worth owning and playing will do that. I didn't like the click-fest Diablo I when it shipped (I liked D2 much better), but I want a lot more from an RPG than D1-style click-fests and level building--that's far too easy and boring, imo.

All those ";)" and overuse of "..." - please stop.



First of all - check how much experience points you ACTUALLY need to get from 1 to 10.

All of this while he/she will make rest of possible companions falling back and usuable later, due to missed experience points and while being completely useless for whole time by lacking levels for equipment or skills. Brilliant idea indeed.



Do you have some kind of fetish for "difficulty", which is just being "bad design" and not actual obstacles?



In other words, when there existed possibility to design your own team by yourself - option desired by many players, expressed over various internet boards and in form of mods, like "4 player creation" or "Fourplay" - and devs for some reason disabled it, calling it "bug" for no reason, you eat it up for no reason as well and right away call it good decision? Perfect.

Actually, creation might happen once - but respec is possible, for rather low price, considering usefulness. Yet, it is limited to main characters, who usually dont need respec at all, unless it was your very first play and had no idea that, for example, "My Precious" is worthless talent.



In short - "Bend over and stop complaining". Maybe you dont remember or never tried it - but when I started playing, bending rules and using your imagination was pros, not a con.



"Bug" only because you got told to think about it like that. I call it "good game design" and somehow, devs of various other games with similar setting shared that.



Sure, playing over again 40+ hours is great solution. Let me correct you - it is not about "fixing" party - it is about "enchanting" it. About making balanced party where members complement each other. A great joy in basically any team-based RPG.



I never said that game overall is "bad" - maybe another sign of modern times, where point out something bad in game is equal to bashing it or people think that games should have binary scores - either 0/1 or 1/1 - only that it have certain bad elements. Or rather - had way to deal with them, now removing it.