Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) General Can one be a female character in Riftrunner?

OK, consider this a crotchet of mine. Nothing reduces my interest in a CRPG like discovering that one cannot be female character in the game.

So, can one be a female character in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />?

I haven't tried to find everything, but the initial logo and screenshots worry me.

What's the story here?

Ardent <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> Fan
Who thinks it was the most underrated game of the year,
But one could play a variety of female characters!

The two main characters certainly aren't female. I've heard you can get extra characters to join your party. Perhaps some of them are female. I think this will be a bit of a downside of RiftRunner, not being able to select your gender. But it saved a lot of space and time not recording a second set of vocals! <poor attempt at redemption>

Yes. See Marian's reply in Two small questions;

Tiffin! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> Great to see you! I was wondering about the female character question myself. Look like gal characters are a go! Yes! Of course I really would have been stunned if female PC's weren't considered after having played DD, where females were lovingly treated on par with males. (Pity I nearly went broke visiting the hunk under the general store... Rawrrrr!)

~Di

Even I - as a male character ... err ... person. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> wonder cwhy ´there are so many games out there with male heroes.

Kyrandia II was quite refreshing for me : A good and strong female char ...

It's just one of those things. not to be sexist or anything but if you look at mainstream media...there is always a male hero or lead character. The heroes back in the old days were always men, i.e. knights, police officers, military, etc. Plus it's just easier for people to identify with.

I disagree, Krull - there were games I quit, cause I couldn't identify myself with a muscle male brute (Planescape Torment). And believe me, I tried it several times. Same for Ultima 8 ff. Ultima 7 was my very first RPG and I was so delighted with my female avatar.
There are a lot of female gamers - and I prefer females. I delve into these worlds, I become a part of them, my female char is just my arm. And this is exactly a mainstream prob: Denying females to play - just because we're more the silent gamer type does not mean we don't have wishes. Well, I have them at least <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> - those mainstream game developers are depriving themselves of a growing group: female gamers.

IMO, this has nothing to do with sexism, it's plain ignorance (and less profit for them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> )!
Kiya

Welcome back, Tiffin <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

I can see your point, kiya, but I still disagree. I'm an older guy, an ex-marine, and I've been playing DD as a female fighter. I see no problem. It's not like there's any personality difference, all the dialogue is the same. And she's just as strong as guy so if you can't identify with a musclebound brute, you won't like her either. Plus, where do you stop? People of different races can just as legitemately (sp?) complain about the lack of black, native american, oriental characters ad infinitum. It would be impossible to satisfy everyone. If the story can logically support a female, then I'm glad to see one included. If not, then not. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

No. Often the heroes are female.
"Chaos! Comics" always had female heroes, "Septera Core" game had a female leader, "Xena" tv episoded had Xena as a leader. In Terry Pratchett's books about DEATH, often Susan is the main character. "Charlies Angels" had 3 women heroes... I can go on.
The heroes back in the old days... Who cares about them?! That's why it's Role Playing Game and not Fantasy Simulation, because you make the character YOU want to make. Did old heroes cast magic or fought riding dragons? Did you ever seen someone fighting with 2 katanas at the same time and winning? Or somebody sleeping in a plate armor?

No offence, I am not trying to flame anyone nor start a flame, just proving my points.

Now thats a simple one. Larian Studios is belgian, and all those races are in Europe by far not that common like in america. So we didn't considered the presence of them as soooooo important. But we do have women. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Hahah!
Since Russia is partly european, I will be seriously offended if there won't be tall fur hats in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

She's prettier <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Seriously: Do you know the old RPG Ishar? There were stats differences between male/female chars. I'm sure the game developers put some thoughts in that. Besides that, I like playing non-human races, too (including Belgians <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> - no offense meant - and if the area would be ice: no objection to fur hats <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> )
My point is, Greybeard: If the developers provide gamers with a large variety for identification, more will be tempted to play it.
Kiya

Greybeard from the old forum? If so, a very hearty welcome back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Hi Marian,
That is very good to hear because a major point of identification from a psychological point of view is the sex-appeal. A man may play the role of a woman and get identified for her being his hero because he feels she is sexy. A woman may play the role of a man as a projection of her real life dreams in the beast she would love to hug. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Seriously, I would even play an alien when that alien is phosphorescent and God-like with ethics, heroism and a clear personality; otherwise I would prefer a very sexy female. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
In RPGs the game designer must consider Boredom because that main character is under the sight of the player constantly, therefore that character must be the most appealing rather than typically representing anything.

Some women find other women to be more appealing than men. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I would have loved to play <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> as Succubus. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Marian, you are a genius. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Cheers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

I strongly agree on the presence of members of other cultures in a game, apart from those known from the country wherein the developing company resides.

I always want to have a choice, if possible. That's simply Freedom, imho.

Another point is the look : I wouldn't mind any strange-looking alien, as long as I'm able to identify myself with this char.

How this identification process evolves, is secondary to me.

Actually, me too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


I wouldn't go that far, but indeed, you have a point. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
(They'll kill me for that...)


Yes, thats why! I've never seen a black man in my live. And given my five years of martial arts i didn't even know until now that asians exist. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

*Sigh* Alrik, you are superior in not getting a joke when you see one, right? Obviously i can neighter speak for whole Larian Studios nor is that a significant reason for letting those races out. Just a joke. Like with the women. I meant we do have them in europe, not only in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> or <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />. Well, thinking about that it like usual wasn't very clear, i guess everybody in Larian Studios would agree on the term "genius of the worst joke". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

In general different human races are rather uncommon in most RPGs. Okay, you get Elves, Dwarves and way more instead.
As my very personal opinion i can only say it would give me a strange feeling and make it somehow ...i don't know... too real? Its hard to explain and i'm definitely not a racist. No, on the contrary. But for instance when i was watching the Dungeons & Dragons Movie i could never get along with the black elven lady. It somehow didn't feel right. Or Zanzarah, the elves were speaking french. Hum... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />
And there are much more of those examples. But maybe i'm too much the traditionalist here...

P.S. I'm not belgian. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Mind you - if you go back further in history - there were women hero's as well...
Look at the Irish Grannaie...(SP?????)
How bout the English Boudica
Cleopatra?
Queen Elizabeth the first...

So, yes maybe the knights were men, but there were women hero's as well, who had brains in their heads, instead of the brawn...

I find it funny that at one piont, women were equal to men...before Christainity came into being, and now women are just getting to be equal again to men????? It definetly says something about our society.

And Marion - i am not racist either (far from it - i enjoy learning of other cultures...) but i hear you on the traditionalist thing...it would be hard to picture an elf as anything but caucasion...
Maybe i am too traditional as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Fantasy RPGs do have races of course but why should they be like the SIMS?
The pointy-ear races do have a base in mythology.
The forest trees in the ancient British tradition had spirits in the trunks.
Which part of the trunk? The entire trunk; and how does a standard and commonest leaf look like?
Pointy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
The fire-fly and the fairies are quite strongly related too.
The Imps of Divinity do have pointy ears too and they resemble the dwarven spirits of tree-roots.
The cocktail of those three races is the correct mix of a magical forest.
Elves, Imps and fairies.

On the other hand, in the waste land, the Arabian Desert has its own races to supply a wealth of fantasy from the Arabian Nights. We have the day Red Genies of hell who hold scimitars of bright blades spawn in the sun and rise with the sun with plenty of vitality.
We have the night blue Genies of endless manna and intelligence who are experts in tracking trail and nothing could hide from them but they prefer to choke you rather than slashing you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Then we have the green, black and yellow genies but that is a long story. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Deep and shallow waters do have another set of creatures, some with scales and some with long slithery arms.
Mountain and rock creatures are still another set of races, but rifts are most special because they are born torn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Rift creatures or better call them spirits are immaterial and mostly spherical but with the texture of clouds.
Some of the rift creatures are fiery and some are dark and cold. The fiery races span the red to yellow range of cloud phosphorescence while the dark races span the blue to the indigo and are much more watery in consistence like a condensed cloud or a space blob. They can change shape very easily and drown the avatar rather than burn like the hot ones would do.

So with such an endless supply of fantasy races, who wants to relive reality in a game!
Not to mention hobbits (imagined humanoid rabbits) and well-shadows, mermaids etcetera.
Oh my! I could go on but readers would kill me already. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I was sincere when I called you a genius and you may E-mail me a screen wallpaper in 1600 x 1200 x 16 of the Succubus anytime Marian my genius. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Cheers.

hey dad? have you seen his site? i think it's been updated, and there is some
cool stuff and info there.... Valaraukar

nice animations pages! Mar... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

i agree with dad........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

But they do have brown too not to mention [b] MUD WRESTLING [b]. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
She of the war.
The jungle …….. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Shape-shifter.
John Dark.
Solomon’s Zenobia.
Hechepsute.
Sonja.
Mia.
I know them all from history and comic books.
Tens of women were heroes with either brown, brain or even both.

I vote for an equal share between male and female heroes even if the bards neglect to sing for the athlete women.

Cheers.

In case of Hatschepsut (Hechepsute, about 1470 b.C.) - no bards could sing her tales. Her step-son had nearly all cartouches erased = in Ancient Egyptian belief the best way to make a person non-existant (as if she had never been born). She was brain - Egytian pharao - not muscles: built Karnak, temples in Luxor and was known as Ruler of Peace - death cause is unkown, rumours say: it was him, Thutmosis III., her step-son and the next pharao, causing her death.

http://www.maat-ka-ra.de/

Kiya, strong interest in matrilinear and matriarchalic history <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />